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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:02 am
 


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Really?

My wife and I have been paying the Health Care premium to the tune of $400 a month for 7 years now.

No new hospitals in our Region, which has grown in population by 40% in that time. I'm just imagining what we could have spent all that cash on that was taken from us.

I'd say I'm a bit annoyed. When we had our last kid the service we got was pretty piss poor.We waited in a corridor while she was in labour. Well funded my arse.

The HST means will be able to spend less on other things as our cash will be going to Toronto ridings. The eco-fee means even more cash being siphoned to e-health and other big wastes of cash.

You might be fine sock, but I live in the 905 regions where the Libs don't get votes or have marginal seats.

Watch the next election and see how the people besides you feel.

And the roads were death traps under Harris? Really, care to prove that spurious point?

And 7 years isn't knee jerk.



I won't argue with you on the issue of service delivery on the 905 region, since I have no experience there.

But as an urban Torontonian who works in the finance sector and district, I can't say it's too bad. Although I am a suburbanite most weekends.

It took me the same amount of time to find and register for a family doctor, as it took for me to figure out I should probably have one (around 1 minute) here in downtown Toronto. I know in the 519 region finding one is a nightmare. That might be simply with the availability of course.

The next election for me will be the same as the last one, I voted libs but the NDP won my riding (Trinity-Spadina). Then it's red mist North, East and West from there until the first blues start popping up around Newmarket to the North and Mississauga to the west.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:12 am
 


Judging by the 2007 provincial election map, the Libs/NDP have strong showings across Ontario. Conservative control bits of Soutern Ontario apart from the GTA. Northern Ontario is mostly a NDP - Liberal affair.

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Judging by the 2007 provincial election map, the Libs/NDP have strong showings across Ontario. Conservative control bits of Soutern Ontario apart from the GTA. Northern Ontario is mostly a NDP - Liberal affair.
I'd guess things have changed significantly. Just look at BC. Drunky Campbell won his third straight term a year ago but now would be lucky to win a drinking contest, and the NDP is the opposition.


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CommanderSock CommanderSock:
Judging by the 2007 provincial election map, the Libs/NDP have strong showings across Ontario. Conservative control bits of Soutern Ontario apart from the GTA. Northern Ontario is mostly a NDP - Liberal affair.
I'd guess things have changed significantly. Just look at BC. Drunky Campbell won his third straight term a year ago but now would be lucky to win a drinking contest, and the NDP is the opposition.


That always happens. Upon winning, ramming down unpopular pet projects is order of the day.

What does Campbell have, 4 years left? Lol. People will totally forget the bad/unpopular stuff by then. McGuinty wasn't even supposed to get the 2nd term remember?

70% later that all changed.


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CommanderSock CommanderSock:
RUEZ RUEZ:
CommanderSock CommanderSock:
Judging by the 2007 provincial election map, the Libs/NDP have strong showings across Ontario. Conservative control bits of Soutern Ontario apart from the GTA. Northern Ontario is mostly a NDP - Liberal affair.
I'd guess things have changed significantly. Just look at BC. Drunky Campbell won his third straight term a year ago but now would be lucky to win a drinking contest, and the NDP is the opposition.


That always happens. Upon winning, ramming down unpopular pet projects is order of the day.

What does Campbell have, 4 years left? Lol. People will totally forget the bad/unpopular stuff by then. McGuinty wasn't even supposed to get the 2nd term remember?

70% later that all changed.
Campbell has less than a year left. I believe after 16 months an official recall petition can be started and it will. Believe me people here are pissed and this won't easily go away. At least we have a system in BC for punishing the politicians that won't listen to us.


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Campbell has less than a year left. I believe after 16 months an official recall petition can be started and it will. Believe me people here are pissed and this won't easily go away. At least we have a system in BC for punishing the politicians that won't listen to us.


Interesting. http://www.elections.bc.ca/ shows that next election is May 2013.


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CommanderSock CommanderSock:
RUEZ RUEZ:
Campbell has less than a year left. I believe after 16 months an official recall petition can be started and it will. Believe me people here are pissed and this won't easily go away. At least we have a system in BC for punishing the politicians that won't listen to us.


Interesting. http://www.elections.bc.ca/ shows that next election is May 2013.
My apologies, Campbell has been removed from the list of Liberals to be targeted for a recall. Never the less, his government will fall before the next election. We in BC are tired of being ignored by the Liberals.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:51 pm
 


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The Ontario Legislature has been very busy raising my taxes for 8 years and I have had no increase in services.

People in Liberal-centric Toronto seem to fine with it though.


In Toronto Tories eat kittens, it's a well known fact. :wink:


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Kitten Madras is my favourite. It's all I can afford after Dalton has taken his cut.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:28 pm
 


I wouldn't vote liberal in Ontario if I voted here. McGuinty is gouging and screwing the people who have a job in this province. At the hospital alot of people are saying they will be shopping south of the border. The eco tax is a major grab and people won't be buying products that have it.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:43 pm
 


I agree Ken.

I'm taking a day off midweek just so I can buy weedkiller, clothes and camera gear from Buffalo.

Ontario retailers 'aint getting my cash for the big things.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 2:04 pm
 


EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Really?

My wife and I have been paying the Health Care premium to the tune of $400 a month for 7 years now.

No new hospitals in our Region, which has grown in population by 40% in that time. I'm just imagining what we could have spent all that cash on that was taken from us.

I'd say I'm a bit annoyed. When we had our last kid the service we got was pretty piss poor.We waited in a corridor while she was in labour. Well funded my arse.

The HST means will be able to spend less on other things as our cash will be going to Toronto ridings. The eco-fee means even more cash being siphoned to e-health and other big wastes of cash.

You might be fine sock, but I live in the 905 regions where the Libs don't get votes or have marginal seats.

Watch the next election and see how the people besides you feel.

And the roads were death traps under Harris? Really, care to prove that spurious point?

And 7 years isn't knee jerk.



Guess we better cut the defence budget then, we have a tax-payer complaining.

Oh , wait.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 2:05 pm
 


Careful with the week killer.. they might think you are using it for something else..lol.... I will be going over the border next week-end. Some people say it effects jobs here if you shop over the border, but for me its a form of protest.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 2:10 pm
 


The fuckers who tax us should have thought about the fact that there are choices ken.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 2:35 pm
 


Interesting that many are talking about cross border shopping. Just got back from Buffalo. Tons of great stuff at great prices. Purchased the usual clothes, electronics etc. This time, we added dish soap and other items that would have had the eco tax on it, including light bulbs. That's $1,400 that the Ontario Liberals aren't going to tax. I figure I would have had to pay close to $2,000 for the same stuff in Ontario. Spending an extra $50 in gas is well worth the $600 in savings. Plus it's fun and I love eating at the IHOP in the morning and the Olive Garden.

"Anything to declare?" Yes, $65 worth of stuff. "Have a great day."


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