[Canadaka]

Wow big surpise Ontario Harper choosing yet another GG from central Canada.

Otherwise seems like a decent pick.

Kinda funny the similarities between his past and Ignatieffs.

[kenmore]

Actually I met Mme Jean and I found her quite down to earth and ordinary. There was no pretentiousness or air of elitism. I have read some of Jean Daniel Lafond's books and view some of his films. He was at one time a supporter of separatism, but denies that now. Most of the country feel she has done a good job and represented the country well. I believe she has. There was a strong showing of people who wanted her term extended so I think it was because of her good work. She is moving on to another post in which she will represnt Canada well and I wish her success.

[2Cdo]

kenmore kenmore:

What! he studied at Harvard, Cambridge and is an academic! he has been out of Canada too long and is only visiting.. lol

By his Wiki profile he graduated Harvard in 63. In 66 he was an assistant professor at Queens. In 68 he transferred to the University of Toronto and in 74 moved to the University of Western Ontario. In 79 he moved on to McGill and in 99 to the University of Waterloo.

So, he's been back in Canada since 1966 or so, not quite the same as Iggy's 30 year hiatus is it.

Once again kenny spouts off about something when he doesn't really have a clue.

Also, it doesn't really matter who he nominates, it will be an improvement over Queen Jean.

And kenny would piss and moan if the PM had nominated kenny himself.

[Khar]

Oops, looks like I was beat to the punch, but since I spent all this time writing it I might as well post it anyways!

Kenmore, talking about how long people have been out of the country is quite different between Ignatieff and Johnston. He's been holding academic positions in Canada since 1966 after finishing a final year of school in Canada in 1965, ever since he came back. He's been the Principal and Vice-Chancellor of McGill University for 15 years, President of the University of Waterloo for 11, a Law Faculty Dean at UWO for 5 years, as well as various other academic positions in between. He was moderating politial debates since the seventies and into the mid eighties in Canada and moderated debates in other capacities as well. The man has one of the most prestigious records in Canada, and left only for advanced education at top grad schools in the world but came back to earn his final LLB. I even recognize his name from his position on the Board of Diretors of quite a few Canadian companies, as well as other work he has done within the nation. That he was working for a degree in law means it doesn't surprise me that he wanted to go to a premier university for it, and I never thought it was a bad thing that Ignatieff did either. I recognized him by name!

On the other hand, Ignatieff has spent over 30 years of his adult life outside of Canada, and most of the places he taught were out of Canada as well. He was not even back in Canada until a half decade ago, when a group of Liberal party members went to ask him to return and run for leadership, which, at the time, he lost, and only got a few years later. I have great respect to both as academics and as teachers, but you cannot so easily equate the two persons -- if you want to talk about someone who has been in and interacted in Canada more, Johnston has. Both have held a plethora of impressive positions, and respectable work has been done by both, but in Canada Johnston had done a lot more than when the conservatives had begun that smear campaign on Ignatieff, who held positions/honours which were abroad. I don’t say this out of political partisanship, simply to keep track of the facts, and I didn’t really like how you were directly relating the two.

[2Cdo]

Khar Khar:

Oops, looks like I was beat to the punch, but since I spent all this time writing it I might as well post it anyways!

Kenmore, talking about how long people have been out of the country is quite different between Ignatieff and Johnston. He's been holding academic positions in Canada since 1966 after finishing a final year of school in Canada in 1965, ever since he came back. He's been the Principal and Vice-Chancellor of McGill University for 15 years, President of the University of Waterloo for 11, a Law Faculty Dean at UWO for 5 years, as well as various other academic positions in between. He was moderating politial debates since the seventies and into the mid eighties in Canada and moderated debates in other capacities as well. The man has one of the most prestigious records in Canada, and left only for advanced education at top grad schools in the world but came back to earn his final LLB. I even recognize his name from his position on the Board of Diretors of quite a few Canadian companies, as well as other work he has done within the nation. That he was working for a degree in law means it doesn't surprise me that he wanted to go to a premier university for it, and I never thought it was a bad thing that Ignatieff did either. I recognized him by name!

On the other hand, Ignatieff has spent over 30 years of his adult life outside of Canada, and most of the places he taught were out of Canada as well. He was not even back in Canada until a half decade ago, when a group of Liberal party members went to ask him to return and run for leadership, which, at the time, he lost, and only got a few years later. I have great respect to both as academics and as teachers, but you cannot so easily equate the two persons -- if you want to talk about someone who has been in and interacted in Canada more, Johnston has. Both have held a plethora of impressive positions, and respectable work has been done by both, but in Canada Johnston had done a lot more than when the conservatives had begun that smear campaign on Ignatieff, who held positions/honours which were abroad. I don’t say this out of political partisanship, simply to keep track of the facts, and I didn’t really like how you were directly relating the two.

Well done. I went with the Readers Digest condensed version. Anything more confuses our little kenny.

[kenmore]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

kenmore kenmore:

What! he studied at Harvard, Cambridge and is an academic! he has been out of Canada too long and is only visiting.. lol

By his Wiki profile he graduated Harvard in 63. In 66 he was an assistant professor at Queens. In 68 he transferred to the University of Toronto and in 74 moved to the University of Western Ontario. In 79 he moved on to McGill and in 99 to the University of Waterloo.

So, he's been back in Canada since 1966 or so, not quite the same as Iggy's 30 year hiatus is it.

Once again kenny spouts off about something when he doesn't really have a clue.

Also, it doesn't really matter who he nominates, it will be an improvement over Queen Jean.

And kenny would piss and moan if the PM had nominated kenny himself.

No I wouldn't want the job.. its another expensive redundant office that Canada doesn't need.. no Queen .... no GG.. its all good!

[EyeBrock]

kenmore kenmore:

Actually I met Mme Jean and I found her quite down to earth and ordinary. There was no pretentiousness or air of elitism. I have read some of Jean Daniel Lafond's books and view some of his films. He was at one time a supporter of separatism, but denies that now. Most of the country feel she has done a good job and represented the country well. I believe she has. There was a strong showing of people who wanted her term extended so I think it was because of her good work. She is moving on to another post in which she will represnt Canada well and I wish her success.

She might be a good chick but she was telling a French audience that she was Canada's head of state, and she isn't. I'm also suspicious of her French citizenship and her French hubby.

The French (as in from France) are not great supporters of any monarchy and are especially not jolly about the British-Canadian monarchy.

Both Brits and the French harbour resentment towards each other that pre-dates the Noman invasion of England in the 11th century.

Having French citizens be the Queens rep in Canada has always seemed dubious to me.

Also Jean seems more interested in her country of birth than Canada and I see she's now the UN special envoy to Haiti, as in not Canada. She obviously has very mixed loyalties and her hubby is patently anti-Brit.

Good riddance.

[ShepherdsDog]

If not for that French witch Joan, mayhaps France would have developed a real culture.

[RUEZ]

Canadaka Canadaka:

Wow big surpise Ontario Harper choosing yet another GG from central Canada.

So now he's "ontario Harper"? What happened to Alberta Harper? You liberals need to decide which province you're going to rag on when he makes a decision you don't like.

[Orator]

Roughly 10 percent of all Canadians feel any connection to the GG.

It's pointless; better than the LG positions, but pointless.

[EyeBrock]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

If not for that French witch Joan, mayhaps France would have developed a real culture.

Yea!

Those were the days eh?

[EyeBrock]

Orator Orator:

Roughly 10 percent of all Canadians feel any connection to the GG.

It's pointless; better than the LG positions, but pointless.

And zero Canadians care what you say.

Again, drive-by postings without any fact or foundation. You should stick to your blog.

We like a debate in here, I don't think you are up to that. I'm still waiting to see how Jean plays into racism and imperialism.

[PluggyRug]

Orator Orator:

Roughly 10 percent of all Canadians feel any connection to the GG.

It's pointless; better than the LG positions, but pointless.

Just because you can't see the point, doth not make it pointless.

[andyt]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

She might be a good chick but she was telling a French audience that she was Canada's head of state, and she isn't. I'm also suspicious of her French citizenship and her French hubby.

French hubby objected to the Queen staying at GG's house, as is tradition when she's in the country. Some veiled reference about not upsetting the Quebecers. I don't have much use for Liz, but when some Frenchie wants to dis her, staying at what is after all her house, I'll jump to her defense every time. The sooner that moron is out of there the better.

[EyeBrock]

Well, I rambled on a rebuttal to Lafond's 'fraying of the British connection' on another thread but people like him are why our Brit/Eire/UEL links are passed over in favour of the Quebecois and whom ever got-off-the-boat-last-week's culture.

Certain members of our political elite since the 1960's, have taken it upon themselves to eradicate this part of Canadian culture and heritage.

People like orator just come and diss what the Brits and UEL's did in building this nation and it's just revisionist drivel.

Whether some people like it or not, the Brits have been here for over 350 years and they made a major and positive contribution to this country.

A contribution that is now overlooked in favour of more politically correct options as in the Quebecois, First Nations and recent immigrants.

So be it, but you can't re-write history, even if you don't like it!