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ASLplease
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:18 pm
Lemmy Lemmy: ASLplease ASLplease: WRONG!
Internet persona A is being sarcastically accused of 'superb logic', by Internet persona B. When, in fact,...
Internet Persona B should look 3 more inches higher on his screen and read where Internet Persona A wrote that he agrees that Harper should not have agreed to host the summit. Then why bring up the gun registry?  the pot and kettle are black, so lets compare them.
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:20 pm
$1: usually its the cons taking out ads
Usually it's both taking out ads and usually during election time, fact is that both parties should shut the F^%c up and start running this country instead of breathing down each others backs via attack ads or accusations in parlament. The fighting and childish displays in all levels of our Federal govenment lately has led me to the conclusion that not one of our polliticians is worth a vote, too bad no one with a brain has the $$$ needed to run.
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ASLplease
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Posts: 4183
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:27 pm
It also seems that the cost over runs on the summit was more trasparant and more open than they were with the gun registry.
the libs went through a great deal of trouble to bury their numbers so deep, only the auditor general was able to get a view of the costs.
hell, when it comes to the adscam, the libs still refuse to release which 18 of 22 liberal mps from quebec recieved dirty money. their only defense is "the judge says we don't have to release that info"
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Lemmy
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Posts: 12349
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:48 pm
ASLplease ASLplease: the pot and kettle are black, so lets compare them. You say "pot and kettle" and I say "apple and orange". If you want to paint Liberal government policies in similar light (which was clearly your intention) at least come up with something halfway similar to the G20 for comparison. An international economic conference and a gun registry don't make for worthy comparison. Surely the Libs must have thrown an international conference of some sort that you could use to compare.
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Posts: 8157
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:31 pm
Unicornlord Unicornlord: Canada is one of the best contries when it comes to recovery. Give credit where credit is due. Uhmmmm... Paul Martin??
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Posts: 15681
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:05 pm
Paul Martin steered our recovery? Really? Didn't he lose about 4 years ago?
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ASLplease
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Posts: 4183
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:50 pm
Lemmy Lemmy: ASLplease ASLplease: the pot and kettle are black, so lets compare them. You say "pot and kettle" and I say "apple and orange". If you want to paint Liberal government policies in similar light (which was clearly your intention) at least come up with something halfway similar to the G20 for comparison. An international economic conference and a gun registry don't make for worthy comparison. Surely the Libs must have thrown an international conference of some sort that you could use to compare. You say "apple and orange(find me an example where the apples smell like the oranges)" and I say " a pile of rotten apples and a pile of rotten oranges( and they both stink, a billion dollars worth of stink.)" I don't need your permission to compare the stink.
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Lemmy
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:38 pm
ASLplease ASLplease: You say "apple and orange(find me an example where the apples smell like the oranges)"
and I say " a pile of rotten apples and a pile of rotten oranges( and they both stink, a billion dollars worth of stink.)"
I don't need your permission to compare the stink. Compare away, sister.
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Posts: 8157
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:11 pm
EyeBrock EyeBrock: Paul Martin steered our recovery? Really? Didn't he lose about 4 years ago? "Steered our recovery"? You think that is why Canada is doing relatively well? Because of the guy steering our recovery? For the record, I don't think Martin deserves much credit either. Just more than Harper. Canada is doing so well because of the condition of it's finances when the recession hit. Thanks partially to Martin's time as finance minister, but mostly just due to the fact that Canada had it's own little melt down long ago and learned some lessons. You know, if we are going to give credit where credit is due.
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:00 am
I don't think Martin deserves much credit, to be honest, and if you are going to say he did, I'd really prefer the evidence as to what he himself specifically did to fix a lot of the problems which hit other countries that did not hit us -- a lot of the regulation, as I understand it, was done during the previous conservative government.
I'm not saying I don't believe you, I just would like to read the papers or articles on it, preferably jurored one's, since I assume the newspaper or whatever you read that from has the relevant info? I'm quite curious to read stances on it because I find both sides are trying to take equal credit, and while Cretien did support a few good neo-liberal policies I always find either side of the debate try to make it sound like the other side did nothing...
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Lemmy
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:44 am
Khar Khar: I don't think Martin deserves much credit, to be honest, and if you are going to say he did, I'd really prefer the evidence as to what he himself specifically did to fix a lot of the problems which hit other countries that did not hit us -- a lot of the regulation, as I understand it, was done during the previous conservative government.
I'm not saying I don't believe you, I just would like to read the papers or articles on it, preferably jurored one's, since I assume the newspaper or whatever you read that from has the relevant info? I'm quite curious to read stances on it because I find both sides are trying to take equal credit, and while Cretien did support a few good neo-liberal policies I always find either side of the debate try to make it sound like the other side did nothing... Banking regulation is responsible for Canada's relatively smooth sailing over the recent global economic downturn. The reform of the Canadian banking sector began under Trudeau and was fine-tuned under Mulroney. Neither Chretien, Martin nor Harper had anything to do with it. Chretien and Martin, if anything, worsened the storm by failing to pay down the debt during their years of massive budget surpluses. Harper cetainly worsened the problem by adding more to the national debt than any governmnet in Canadian history....if we're giving credit where credit is due.
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:48 am
Thanks for the info, I didn't think that Martin had done much to help, and didn't really thing that Harper had helped a ton with this particular topic either regarding bank regulation. It seemed all I could find was either partisan articles, or info dating back to Mulroney on the subject. I appreciate you taking the time for the response, since I truly am curious! 
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Posts: 15681
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:22 am
Khar, Lemmy is our resident economist and he knows his shit!
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:04 am
Yes, Lemmy mentioned that to me when I posted in that Economist thread of Bruce's for a few pages. I'm afraid I've already scraped my forehead bowing.  I've got a thing for economists. Ruff! 
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Lemmy
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Posts: 12349
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:49 am
Khar Khar: Yes, Lemmy mentioned that to me when I posted in that Economist thread of Bruce's for a few pages. I'm afraid I've already scraped my forehead bowing.  Fuck the bowing; buy me a beer! Khar Khar: I've got a thing for economists. Ruff!  Kinda like my thing for tits? I do have a t-shirt reads "Economists do it with models." 
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