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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:18 am
Pimp, I've been doing this job for almost 28 years. The biggest problem with Valcartier troops is their blatant relaxation of safety regulations which leads to things like this. As for animosity, how about Quebec troops in Croatia/Bosnia, pissing on all the bedding and breaking all the windows in a platoon house before handing it over to an English Canadian unit. Or having sex with mentally handicapped women in Croatia. Or stripping all the furniture and bedding out of the trailers we were about to occupy. What about the huge spike in positive drug tests from the troops before deploying to Afghanistan. Or the Quebec troops who did no patrolling in Bosnia for six months, leading the locals to think the Canadian troops had gone home.
Enough examples for you.
That being said, I have worked with Quebec troops who have been excellent soldiers. Keen, fit and smart. But as an average, I would rate english speaking troops better educated and motivated by more than a paycheck!
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:25 am
2Cdo 2Cdo: Pimp, I've been doing this job for almost 28 years. The biggest problem with Valcartier troops is their blatant relaxation of safety regulations which leads to things like this. As for animosity, how about Quebec troops in Croatia/Bosnia, pissing on all the bedding and breaking all the windows in a platoon house before handing it over to an English Canadian unit. Or having sex with mentally handicapped women in Croatia. Or stripping all the furniture and bedding out of the trailers we were about to occupy. What about the huge spike in positive drug tests from the troops before deploying to Afghanistan. Or the Quebec troops who did no patrolling in Bosnia for six months, leading the locals to think the Canadian troops had gone home.
Enough examples for you.
That being said, I have worked with Quebec troops who have been excellent soldiers. Keen, fit and smart. But as an average, I would rate english speaking troops better educated and motivated by more than a paycheck! You just reminded me of how Valcartier pretty much runined decompression for my buddies tour; they pretty much did what they did in Croatia/Bosnia to the hotel in Cyprus. Also another friend of mine has been told to expect his 7 month tour to be exstended to 10 months because the Vandoos dont want to deploy before Christmas. 
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:43 pm
I can certainly respect your clarification(s). At least you took the time to give an explanation, that's fair.
Eventhough, I still disagree, since our opinions differ concerning the troops from Valcartier. I know soldiers from there. That's all it is, a difference of opinion.
The purpose was not to create an argument for no apparent reason. I admit that my stance is the same to the fact that perhaps there would have been a different reaction had it been any other unit or regiment from anywhere else in Canada. But in all fairness, this is exactly what forums are for, to give different opinions on any particular matter. Anyways, it adds a little spice to some threads, something that has been lacking as of late on this forum.
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:21 pm
No an Ideotic comment would be something like "Was that General from the Afghan mission visiting by chance?" $1: She could not say whether it is common practice for a tank's guns to be loaded while undergoing repairs. Um, does she really have to comment? I mean really, the media even had to ask that question?
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:06 pm
2Cdo 2Cdo: Pimp, I've been doing this job for almost 28 years. The biggest problem with Valcartier troops is their blatant relaxation of safety regulations which leads to things like this. As for animosity, how about Quebec troops in Croatia/Bosnia, pissing on all the bedding and breaking all the windows in a platoon house before handing it over to an English Canadian unit. Or having sex with mentally handicapped women in Croatia. Or stripping all the furniture and bedding out of the trailers we were about to occupy. What about the huge spike in positive drug tests from the troops before deploying to Afghanistan. Or the Quebec troops who did no patrolling in Bosnia for six months, leading the locals to think the Canadian troops had gone home.
Enough examples for you.
That being said, I have worked with Quebec troops who have been excellent soldiers. Keen, fit and smart. But as an average, I would rate english speaking troops better educated and motivated by more than a paycheck! The troops from Valcartier, HA! I too have dealt with them 1st hand as the 1st English platoon to arrive on site during Oka. We arrived ahead of the main body of the RCR to be attached to them once they arrived but during the interim we were under the 22 Vandoo. We ended up guarding De Chastelain house, being shot at by the locals, reporting it to them and they don't even bother to respond! So don't even get me started at the shit they put us through. All I can say is THANK GOD FOR THE RCR! So pardon me if I have a low opinion of them. I have met the odd troop that had his shit together but that whole incident made me see the french in a whole new light to say the least.
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:39 am
Base spokeswoman Stephanie Duchesne said " she could not say whether it is common practice for a tank's guns to be loaded while undergoing repairs." Give me a break...have someone with a little bit of "common military sense" to be the spoke's person for the base.
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:10 pm
TuavDan TuavDan: Base spokeswoman Stephanie Duchesne said " she could not say whether it is common practice for a tank's guns to be loaded while undergoing repairs." Give me a break...have someone with a little bit of "common military sense" to be the spoke's person for the base. What's wrong with that? I always leave my rifles and pistols loaded when I clean them or work on them. It's perfectly safe. I also prefer to use my left hand when doing such work. 
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:53 pm
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:24 pm
BartSimpson,
You made my day...by making me laugh...
thanks!
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Posts: 387
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:18 am
"Ms. Duchesne says she believes the soldiers, who were taking part in a training exercise on the base, were all members of 12 RBC Valcartier in Quebec." Once again, as a Base spokeswoman she should have her stuff together and not "believe, assume." Have the facts (why am I writing this, because we have to many persons representing the military and having no military experience or clue about the military.
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