[RUEZ]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Whatever, we now return to your regularly scheduled Muslim bashing...

[martin14]

RUEZ RUEZ:

bootlegga bootlegga:

Whatever, we now return to your regularly scheduled Muslim bashing...

aww, dont feel so bad for him Ruez

booty just caught one right between the eyes... and he knows it.

[Proculation]

It's Hamas bashing. We target Hamas while you target Jews in general.

I wonder who is the worst ?

[Bodah]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Sorry, PR and martydom are two very different things...but then both of you would know that if you knew anything about PR or held onto any belief other than "Israel is absolutely, positively, 100% unfallable".

In this case I truely believed they did nothing wrong. I guess you were watching different videos than the rest of us. Either that or you believe it's just propaganda created by the Israelis made up at some film set in Van Nuys, CA. with Arab American actors.

You telling me your taking the tin-foil slant on this ?

[Proculation]

Bodah Bodah:

bootlegga bootlegga:

Sorry, PR and martydom are two very different things...but then both of you would know that if you knew anything about PR or held onto any belief other than "Israel is absolutely, positively, 100% unfallable".

In this case I truely believed they did nothing wrong. I guess you were watching different videos than the rest of us. Either that or you believe it's just propaganda created by the Israelis made up at some film set in Van Nuys, CA. with Arab American actors.

You telling me your taking the tin-foil slant on this ?

It was staged at the same place than the 'landing of the Moon' in 1969.

[desertdude]

bootlegga bootlegga:

"Israel is absolutely, positively, 100% unfallable"

Correct, I'm starting to get that feeling too that most people here share the the US govt stand of that anybody involved in any altercation with Israel is guilty until proven innocent and not the other way round.

And why is everything always turns into being a Jew thing ? No one has never mentioned anything against jews in any of the posts here. They are directed to the rogue state of Israel or the IDF.

Why is it against the law or being antisemetic to criticse Israel or the IDF ?

[Proculation]

desertdude desertdude:

bootlegga bootlegga:

"Israel is absolutely, positively, 100% unfallable"

Correct, I'm starting to get that feeling too that most people here share the the US govt stand of that anybody involved in any altercation with Israel is guilty until proven innocent and not the other way round.

And why is everything always turns into being a Jew thing ? No one has never mentioned anything against jews in any of the posts here. They are directed to the rogue state of Israel or the IDF.

Why is it against the law or being antisemetic to criticse Israel or the IDF ?

Not at all.

For me, I'm siding with a 6,000,000 peoples nation in a sea of 300,000,000 muslims.

I also see the Hamas, the Hezbollah and others.

Sorry if I side with a democracy being always the victime but our media tell us they are the bad guys. It's staged by muslims. They have plan to make them the 'victims' in other countries and by reading you, I can only say that they succeeded.

How do they them ? Useful idiots ?

[Bodah]

desertdude desertdude:

Correct, I'm starting to get that feeling too that most people here share the the US govt stand of that anybody involved in any altercation with Israel is guilty until proven innocent and not the other way round.

Not at all, in this case its seems pretty clear they did nothing wrong. You disagree noted, according to you they should of been allowed to go on when they disobeyed orders for an inspection while approaching a blockade and the IDF shouldn't of killed anyone when they legally boarded a ship even while they were beaten, stabbed and shot.
Understood.

desertdude desertdude:

And why is everything always turns into being a Jew thing ? No one has never mentioned anything against jews in any of the posts here. They are directed to the rogue state of Israel or the IDF.

Why is it against the law or being antisemetic to criticse Israel or the IDF ?

Only problem with that ideology is that the "rogue" state of Israel happens to be the home of Jews. I don't pretend to understand the complex history of Israel and their neigbours for the past 70 years and I realize both sides have done some wrong. But in this case they clearly imo did nothing wrong.

So when I see the world protest against Israel blindly it disgusts me.

[RUEZ]

desertdude desertdude:

bootlegga bootlegga:

"Israel is absolutely, positively, 100% unfallable"

Correct, I'm starting to get that feeling too that most people here share the the US govt stand of that anybody involved in any altercation with Israel is guilty until proven innocent and not the other way round.

Negative. When I first heard about the Israeli soldiers killing civilians I was appalled. Then I saw some video and heard the truth. These weren't innocents, these were idiots spoiling for a fight. Well they got what they wanted, and you can't cry victim now.

[Thanos]

desertdude desertdude:

bootlegga bootlegga:

"Israel is absolutely, positively, 100% unfallable"

Correct, I'm starting to get that feeling too that most people here share the the US govt stand of that anybody involved in any altercation with Israel is guilty until proven innocent and not the other way round.

And why is everything always turns into being a Jew thing ? No one has never mentioned anything against jews in any of the posts here. They are directed to the rogue state of Israel or the IDF.

Why is it against the law or being antisemetic to criticse Israel or the IDF ?

Actually it's usually the pro-jihadist and pro-terrorist "activists", such as the members of the hardcore Islamist group from Turkey that organized the blockade running, who are the ones who always turn it into a Jew "thing".

I freely admit that I have an almost automatic bias in favour of Israel, even if I don't particulary like the belligerence of the current Israeli government. I have a hard time feeling any sort of regret for this bias, however, when it's easy enough to find enough reminders that the vast majority of anti-Israeli activity conducted in the Muslim world (and by too many people on the hard left political fringe in the West) is perpetrated by people who are behaving (literally) no differently than the Nazis did.

[xerxes]

Proculation Proculation:

It's Hamas bashing. We target Hamas while you target Jews in general.

I wonder who is the worst ?

Actually, it's the Israeli government we bash, not the Jews.

[PimpBrewski123]

xerxes xerxes:

Actually, it's the Israeli government we bash, not the Jews.

Ok but, since you are supposed to be the ''most interesting man in the world'' (avatar), therefore you should be impartial no matter.

[Scape]

desertdude desertdude:

bootlegga bootlegga:

"Israel is absolutely, positively, 100% unfallable"

Correct, I'm starting to get that feeling too that most people here share the the US govt stand of that anybody involved in any altercation with Israel is guilty until proven innocent and not the other way round.

And why is everything always turns into being a Jew thing ? No one has never mentioned anything against jews in any of the posts here. They are directed to the rogue state of Israel or the IDF.

Why is it against the law or being antisemetic to criticse Israel or the IDF ?

Israel no saint but Hamas brings this evil harvest upon themselves. Their predecessors were corrupt and incompetent but they didn't have a blockade imposed upon them because they were firing rocket into Israeli cities at least. So when anyone tries to come to the aid of the people of Gaza they must also bear the mantel of the Hamas government. Elected is the only legitimate aspect about Hamas and say what you want about Israel it is a far better host to its people both Jewish and Arab then Hamas will ever be. To that end it is the best interest of the people as a whole that everyone should be working towards and Hamas is most certainly NOT a partner in peace as they would gladly kill their own just to stay in power just so they can squabble over crumbs rather then feast at any table the Israelis are a apart of.

[Bodah]

xerxes xerxes:

Proculation Proculation:

It's Hamas bashing. We target Hamas while you target Jews in general.

I wonder who is the worst ?

Actually, it's the Israeli government we bash, not the Jews.

Understood, it's the government that's evil and not the people that have been electing them for the past couple of decades.

That would explain why someones jewish mother on a bus on her way to work in Tel Aviv is a valid target for a suicide bomber.

Sorry, I meant freedom fighter.

[GreenTiger]

desertdude desertdude:

bootlegga bootlegga:

"Israel is absolutely, positively, 100% unfallable"

Correct, I'm starting to get that feeling too that most people here share the the US govt stand of that anybody involved in any altercation with Israel is guilty until proven innocent and not the other way round.

And why is everything always turns into being a Jew thing ? No one has never mentioned anything against jews in any of the posts here. They are directed to the rogue state of Israel or the IDF.

Why is it against the law or being antisemetic to criticse Israel or the IDF ?

Let me answer you as an American.

There is a feeling that Israel is the only democratic country in the region and as such needs to be defended.
There is a great temptation by Israel and very powerful Jewish groups to label criticism of the Republic of Israel as antisemitism. The reason they do is that it largely works. They call up images of the holocaust and say "never again". In 1965 Israel shot up an American Naval ship and the American Government covered it up as much as possible. If any other nation did something like this you could expect the same response as the 9-11 attack.

I agree Israel is a rogue state and needs to be reined in. Jews have their place and so do the Palestinians. Jerusalem is a problem. I personally think it should be its own city state run by the the three major religions jointly. That isn't going to happen. It will continue to be a sore point probably forever. There were points when peace was very close, but close doesn't count.

It should be a lot different, but the "automatic Israel 100% correct" nonsense is beginning to crack. I'm serious. The housing issue in East Jerusalem and the way it was presented did not sit well with the American government. The American government felt insulted as we were.

What is needed on the American stage is people like yourself. Moderate muslims to educate us. Most of what we hear about the mid east is what every Horse Shit Israel wants to feed us and up until now we have been digesting it well.

I signed on to Al-Jazera I was expecting to read some radical Islam thing calling for all American to be killed and so on. I was entirely wrong. It is a first class news agency that I found very educational and balance. It is Islamic Oriented but so what. People who won't talk to us talk to al-Jazerra.

I don't want to bore with a long essay here (If I haven't bored you already).

The super Israel fixation is cracking and the American Government is starting to look hard at how much trouble is Israel worth prior to this that was never even a consideration.

There is a world of difference between antisemitism and being critical of the Republic of Israel, just as there is a world of difference between a nation criticizing the United States and being anti American.