[ASLplease]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

ASLplease ASLplease:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

So, by busting people and giving them a minimum sentence for growing as few as 5 plants, they think this'll stop the pot business. So, those personal growers may just quit growing their own and start buying it from the very types of sources that are the REAL problem. Brilliant strategy.

you seriously should consider cutting back if your consumption is not sustainable with 5 pot plants

*sigh* Missed the point again didn't ya? Look, 5 plants is NOT a grow-op, it's personal use. By handing out jail sentences for as few as 5 plants it's going to encourage people to quit growing for personal reasons and just buy it from possible questionable sources. Considering simple possession doesn't get you jail time and growing as few as 5 plants will, I fail to see how this will put a dent in the industry. As a matter of fact, it just might end up pumping MORE money into the organized crime section of pot growing and distribution.

I agree that its not a grow op, but it certainly goes well beyond personal use.

I suggest you tell me how many plants you are able to smoke in the time it takes to grow another crop? if its only 1 plant, then someone have very conscientiously set the limit 5 times higher than your personal consumption. Got a problem with that?

[PublicAnimalNo9]

ASLplease ASLplease:

I suggest you tell me how many plants you are able to smoke in the time it takes to grow another crop? if its only 1 plant, then someone have very conscientiously set the limit 5 times higher than your personal consumption. Got a problem with that?

The SMART personal grower will grow their plants in a cycle so they mature at different times. This (hopefully) ensures a regular supply of FRESH weed without it sitting around, turning to dust and losing potency while it waits to be smoked.
Contrary to popular belief, while popping it in the freezer may keep it "fresh", it kills the potency.

Also, keep in mind that different strains, and different growing conditions will produce different yield sizes. I've grown plants that only produced an ounce of usable smoke. I've grown plants that netted me almost a 1/4 lb.
And everybody isn't gonna get the same yields no matter what.
As far as plants vs personal consumption, that actually has nothing to do with me since I don't currently grow my own.
Then you also have to take into account that plants come in male and female. Female pot plants are the ones you smoke. Male plants are only good for fertilizing the females. Just to keep a supply of seeds you need multiple plants. What good is growing ONE pot plant only to find out it's a male? Of course, there are ways to force the sex of plant to change, but you still need both sexes to keep the generations going. In effect, you need a MINIMUM of 3 plants, one male, one female to seed and one female to smoke if you wanna maintain a minimum steady personal supply.

[ASLplease]

remind me not to rent to you.

[rickc]

What a waste of time and resources.Just legalize pot and tax it.I remember a few years back when Vancouver was being touted as the North American Amsterdam.What happened? This could revamp the tourist industry,exchange rate be damned.Canadians are supposed to be ahead of Americans on social issues.You guys are dropping the ball on this one.Many States have medical weed laws.California and Nevada are ready to vote for full outright legalization for weed.Reminds me of when Alaska allowed a certain amount of weed in your home for personal use.The feds sent the drug tzar up to Alaska to whip everyone into shape for a special referendum to overturn Alaska's law.It worked.I still can't believe that the rugged independant people of Alaska caved in to outside pressure from the feds.Anyway I digress,I think Canada is taking a major step backward with this way of thinking.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

ASLplease ASLplease:

remind me not to rent to you.

That's ok, you couldn't afford the kind of place I'd be willing to rent.

Besides, I own, not rent.

[redhatmamma]

5 plants is too low, but where do we draw the line between a small amount for personal use and criminal activity/grow ops? Maybe 10 plants ?

[Arctic_Menace]

redhatmamma redhatmamma:

5 plants is too low, but where do we draw the line between a small amount for personal use and criminal activity/grow ops? Maybe 10 plants ?

You're missing the point, this legislation is entirely useless for so many reasons, many of which have been identified by previous posters. Which reminds me...

Am I seriously seeing what I think I'm seeing in this thread? Liberals and Conservatives...AGREEING with each other?!?!?!

[RUEZ]

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:

Am I seriously seeing what I think I'm seeing in this thread? Liberals and Conservatives...AGREEING with each other?!?!?!

Sure, I think we can all agree that the average stoner smoking homegrown in his yard isn't a threat. We need to take care of the real crap.

[Arctic_Menace]

RUEZ RUEZ:

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:

Am I seriously seeing what I think I'm seeing in this thread? Liberals and Conservatives...AGREEING with each other?!?!?!

Sure, I think we can all agree that the average stoner smoking homegrown in his yard isn't a threat. We need to take care of the real crap.

True enough. I also feel it should be legalized and heavily taxed. That way, the government gets more money to put toward essential services.

[andyt]

redhatmamma redhatmamma:

5 plants is too low, but where do we draw the line between a small amount for personal use and criminal activity/grow ops? Maybe 10 plants ?

With alcohol, you can't distill it, but you can make as much beer and wine as you want. You just can't sell it. And since there's an easy, and reasonably priced source available at the liquor store, most people just go that route. It should be the same deal with pot. With pot there might be a larger underground production/sale than with booze, but legalization would bring the price way down, and so greatly reduce that production. Unfortunately, unlike booze, every kid could be growing his own plants, since they would still not be able to get it legally.

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[PublicAnimalNo9]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

RUEZ RUEZ:

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:

Am I seriously seeing what I think I'm seeing in this thread? Liberals and Conservatives...AGREEING with each other?!?!?!

Sure, I think we can all agree that the average stoner smoking homegrown in his yard isn't a threat. We need to take care of the real crap.

It's statements like these that make me confident that it'll become widely legal in the next 20 years.

If not, something's wrong.

It'll take the Liberals to do it though. I only make that claim based on a trend with recent PM's. If it's a Conservative in office, they're busy sucking on America's ass. It was the Liberals that thumbed their noses at the US when they decriminalized simple possession. Which it STILL should be. Harper and his Conservatives re-criminalized it. And I'm betting it was due to US pressure.
When Harper claimed that his kids were getting to the age where they'd be potentially exposed to pot and that's why the new laws, he's full of shit.
His kids are ALSO getting to the age where alcohol and tobacco are temptations but I see NO move on his part to ban those substances.
Idiot!!

[Choban]

The December amendments also gave aboriginal convicts an exemption from the minimum-sentence provisions.

? So lets throw people in jail for nothing, just not natives.

[Robair]

rickc rickc:

Anyway I digress,I think Canada is taking a major step backward with this way of thinking.

I think most Canadians agree with you.