[Thanos]

Sounds like you're looking forward to getting a chance to kill someone. I'd get that urge checked out by a professional if I were you before you end up doing something really stupid.

[Public_Domain]

[commanderkai]

Lemmy Lemmy:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Except that the Confederacy was primarily Democrat.

Democrats and Republicans in 1860 have NOTHING TO with those parties today.

Excellent, so how about people stop comparing the modern Republican party as representing the interests of the Confederacy? Parties evolve and change over time.

[ManifestDestiny]

Thanos Thanos:

Sounds like you're looking forward to getting a chance to kill someone. I'd get that urge checked out by a professional if I were you before you end up doing something really stupid.

Sounds like you have a bad case of white guilt. I am not looking forward to killing anyone, I'm just not scared of people the way you are.

[ManifestDestiny]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

Thanos Thanos:

Sounds like you're looking forward to getting a chance to kill someone. I'd get that urge checked out by a professional if I were you before you end up doing something really stupid.

Lmfao, ManifestFantasy couldn't hurt a fly. He's probably yell a lot of grammar-less bullshit at it though.

Your to funny. And have no clue who I am. And what I would do to protect my property and my Family.

[CommanderSock]

Maybe this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily-White_Movement

...is why blacks vote 95% for the democrats.

If the Republicans didn't work so hard to completely drive them out of the party, there would be a bit more diversity in the Republican party.

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By the beginning of the 20th century black political influence was in freefall. During the first three decades of the 20th century blacks were excluded from the U.S. Congress.[10] As the 1920s came the movement had largely succeeded in establishing almost total white supremacy in the party. Numerous events point to this fact such as the barring of black leaders from the Virginia Republican Congressional Convention in 1922.[11]

Everything happens for a reason.

[Lemmy]

commanderkai commanderkai:

Excellent, so how about people stop comparing the modern Republican party as representing the interests of the Confederacy? Parties evolve and change over time.

I think why the modern Republican Party painted with the Confederacy is one of common ideology rather than any actually, political ties. While I agree that parties change over time, I wouldn't say they all "evolve". In the case of the current Republican Party, it's devolved, not evolved. Would Reagan or Eisenhower or Lincoln or Coolidge be Republicans in 2010? No way.

[Thanos]

ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:

Thanos Thanos:

Sounds like you're looking forward to getting a chance to kill someone. I'd get that urge checked out by a professional if I were you before you end up doing something really stupid.

Sounds like you have a bad case of white guilt. I am not looking forward to killing anyone, I'm just not scared of people the way you are.

Well, you are consistently good for a laugh if nothing else. You can make it even funnier right now if you somehow manage to string together some bizarre hypothosis on how the all-white Tea Party movement really isn't motivated by an hysterical terror of a well-educated and intelligent black man being in the White House, but are solely interested in fiscal concerns. I'm sure it'll ring about as true as how the Tea Partiers were just as angry at government spending during the Bush years but, gosh, just didn't have the time to gather together to whine about it in PUBLIC (gasp! socialist!) parks. You betcha!

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[commanderkai]

Lemmy Lemmy:

I think why the modern Republican Party painted with the Confederacy is one of common ideology rather than any actually, political ties. While I agree that parties change over time, I wouldn't say they all "evolve". In the case of the current Republican Party, it's devolved, not evolved. Would Reagan or Eisenhower or Lincoln or Coolidge be Republicans in 2010? No way.

Why wouldn't they? Seriously, the Republican Party, and the Confederate States of America are two MASSIVELY separate entities. The G.O.P. isn't supporting slavery, or racial segregation, lynch mobs, or the KKK, no matter what some people might claim. The American Southeast isn't what it was 40 years ago either. Are there racist individuals in the American South? Sure, might like there have been in the American Northeast and Midwest, and anywhere else.

[commanderkai]

CommanderSock CommanderSock:

Maybe this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily-White_Movement

...is why blacks vote 95% for the democrats.

If the Republicans didn't work so hard to completely drive them out of the party, there would be a bit more diversity in the Republican party.

...And you think the Democrats, in the late 19th and early 20th century were black friendly? Come on. They were elected in the South on a massive basis SPECIFICALLY for their racial views.

[CommanderSock]

commanderkai commanderkai:

CommanderSock CommanderSock:

Maybe this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily-White_Movement

...is why blacks vote 95% for the democrats.

If the Republicans didn't work so hard to completely drive them out of the party, there would be a bit more diversity in the Republican party.

...And you think the Democrats, in the late 19th and early 20th century were black friendly? Come on. They were elected in the South on a massive basis SPECIFICALLY for their racial views.

That's true also. Dixiecrats come to mind.

However, I don't believe the democrats had any major movements to expel black members from the party like the Republicans did.

[Lemmy]

commanderkai commanderkai:

Why wouldn't they? Seriously, the Republican Party, and the Confederate States of America are two MASSIVELY separate entities. The G.O.P. isn't supporting slavery, or racial segregation, lynch mobs, or the KKK, no matter what some people might claim. The American Southeast isn't what it was 40 years ago either. Are there racist individuals in the American South? Sure, might like there have been in the American Northeast and Midwest, and anywhere else.

They doesn't openly support those things but they certainly don't support integration or equal rights either. And a good many (certainly the Tea Bag elelment of the Republican party) DO, at least subtly, support white supremacy and Christian supremacy. If the Republicans want to reverse that perception of themselves, they need to jetison the lunatic fringe. The old saying "You're judged by the company you keep" applies.

Nonetheless, I agree with you that they (21st century Republicans and 19th century Confederates) are completely separate entities...but separate entities with a lot of common fundamental beliefs.

[commanderkai]

Lemmy Lemmy:

They doesn't openly support those things but they certainly don't support integration or equal rights either.

...What? How do the Republicans not support integration or equal rights? Remember, we're talking about the Republicans representing the views of the Confederacy, so stick it to race. I'll give SOME credit over homosexuality, but the fact that die hard Democratic states like California can't get public approval over homosexual marriage might show this "equal rights" transcends purely politics.

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And a good many (certainly the Tea Bag elelment of the Republican party) DO, at least subtly, support white supremacy and Christian supremacy.

Subtly support? This more sounds like "My opinion they support so and so, but I can't prove it...so I'm going to say they support it anyway."

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If the Republicans want to reverse that perception of themselves, they need to jetison the lunatic fringe. The old saying "You're judged by the company you keep" applies.

And how can they do that, exactly? How did the anti-war movement flush out the radicals amongst themselves (and within the Democrat Party)? The answer to this...is they didn't. And they still haven't.

The Republicans should fuel an inquisition against the lunatic segments of their own party? Outside the fact this is impossible, and would bring forth Nazi labels against the GOP (which, if it's not racist, it's fascist), who decides what is lunatic or radical?

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Nonetheless, I agree with you that they (21st century Republicans and 19th century Confederates) are completely separate entities...but separate entities with a lot of common fundamental beliefs.

And you're wrong. Completely, absolutely wrong. The Republican Party, no matter what a few people might try to argue or slander (seemingly more slander than argue) is far from the views of the Confederacy. Fuck, the American South is far from the views of the Confederacy. The fact you think otherwise shows how politically blinded you are.

[Lemmy]

commanderkai commanderkai:

Lemmy Lemmy:

They doesn't openly support those things but they certainly don't support integration or equal rights either.

...What? How do the Republicans not support integration or equal rights? Remember, we're talking about the Republicans representing the views of the Confederacy, so stick it to race.

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And a good many (certainly the Tea Bag elelment of the Republican party) DO, at least subtly, support white supremacy and Christian supremacy.

Subtly support? This more sounds like "My opinion they support so and so, but I can't prove it...so I'm going to say they support it anyway."

$1:

If the Republicans want to reverse that perception of themselves, they need to jetison the lunatic fringe. The old saying "You're judged by the company you keep" applies.

And how can they do that, exactly? How did the anti-war movement flush out the radicals amongst themselves (and within the Democrat Party)? The answer to this...is they didn't. And they still haven't.

The Republicans should fuel an inquisition against the lunatic segments of their own party? Outside the fact this is impossible, and would bring forth Nazi labels against the GOP (which, if it's not racist, it's fascist), who decides what is lunatic or radical?

$1:

Nonetheless, I agree with you that they (21st century Republicans and 19th century Confederates) are completely separate entities...but separate entities with a lot of common fundamental beliefs.

And you're wrong. Completely, absolutely wrong. The Republican Party, no matter what a few people might try to argue or slander (seemingly more slander than argue) is far from the views of the Confederacy. Fuck, the American South is far from the views of the Confederacy. The fact you think otherwise shows how politically blinded you are.

Nice rant....you asked about why the Republicans are associated by many (not me, but many or you wouldn't have asked the question) with Confederates. You recognized it, not me. I just gave you my opinion of why that perception may exist: allowing too many radical lunatics into what was a mainstream party. But nice troll in turning this into something about me.