[Brenda]

Yeah... And nowadays, it results in beating up the old man who owns the apples...

[Hyack]

Out-of-bound ball creates problem for golfers in southern Alberta

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PICTURE BUTTE, Alta. - Talk about hitting from the rough.

A southern Alberta farmer has been charged with firing a weapon and threatening two golfers who came onto his property to retrieve a ball that had been hit out of bounds. RCMP say the incident happened on farmland adjacent to the seventh tee of the Harvest golf course in Picture Butte, Alta., on April Fool's Day.

Police say the three men got into a confrontation and a man discharged a firearm in a threatening manner.

The golfers left the area and the police were contacted by 911.

Terry Dale Trefan of Picture Butte has been charged with two counts of using a firearm in the committing of the indictable offence of uttering threats, and one count each of careless use of a firearm, pointing a firearm, and unauthorized possession of a firearm.

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[PublicAnimalNo9]

raydan raydan:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

Is a gun REALLY NECESSARY to tell Golfers to leave?

Did this guy have a golfer piss in his soup?

Well to be fair, the golfers are armed with clubs lol, and maybe buddy was just sick and tired of the possible parade of golfers hopping his fence to retrieve their balls.
The reason I wonder what was there first though is, if the houses by the course were built AFTER or as part of a "golf course community" then well maybe buddy should have considered buying elsewhere.
If the course popped up AFTER the houses were built and were NOT meant to be part of a "golf club community", then I can understand buddy's frustration.

Doesn't matter.

If you build your house after your neighbor, it doesn't give him the right to go into your yard, unless you invite him over for a BBQ.

I'm talking about public venues. If you buy or build a house next to one, don't complain if you have problems.
Example, I dunno if you ever heard of Lulu's in Kitchener. If not, it was the world's longest bar at one time. Very popular place with lots of bands stopping in to play. The land behind it was empty but was eventually filled with $500K+ homes. These residents continually complained about the noise from Lulu's until it was finally shut down. Which AFAIC, is total bullshit.
I'm not saying the golfers have a right to go into buddy's yard if the house was built after the course, but if you buy a house RIGHT next to a golf course, don't expect everybody there to be playing PGA level of golf.

[raydan]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

I'm talking about public venues. If you buy or build a house next to one, don't complain if you have problems.
Example, I dunno if you ever heard of Lulu's in Kitchener. If not, it was the world's longest bar at one time. Very popular place with lots of bands stopping in to play. The land behind it was empty but was eventually filled with $500K+ homes. These residents continually complained about the noise from Lulu's until it was finally shut down. Which AFAIC, is total bullshit.
I'm not saying the golfers have a right to go into buddy's yard if the house was built after the course, but if you buy a house RIGHT next to a golf course, don't expect everybody there to be playing PGA level of golf.

I agree with you... in part.

Don't complain about the smell if you build a house near a chicken farm.
Don't complain about the noise if you build a house near an airport.

You can complain if the chickens or planes come in your yard though.

[DrCaleb]

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.. discharged a firearm in a threatening manner.

As opposed to discharging it in a friendly manner.

"*bang* Haha! Made you crap your pants!"

[PublicAnimalNo9]

raydan raydan:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

I'm talking about public venues. If you buy or build a house next to one, don't complain if you have problems.
Example, I dunno if you ever heard of Lulu's in Kitchener. If not, it was the world's longest bar at one time. Very popular place with lots of bands stopping in to play. The land behind it was empty but was eventually filled with $500K+ homes. These residents continually complained about the noise from Lulu's until it was finally shut down. Which AFAIC, is total bullshit.
I'm not saying the golfers have a right to go into buddy's yard if the house was built after the course, but if you buy a house RIGHT next to a golf course, don't expect everybody there to be playing PGA level of golf.

I agree with you... in part.

Don't complain about the smell if you build a house near a chicken farm.
Don't complain about the noise if you build a house near an airport.

You can complain if the chickens or planes come in your yard though.

Believe me, I do kinda sympathize with the guy. He prolly bought the house thinking it would be nice and quiet living next to a golf course.
I made the same mistake when I bought my previous house. IT was beside a church and I thought, "Great, I'll have nice respectful neighbours on one side at least".
WRONG! I've had assholes for neighbours before but the minister and some of the members of that church were the biggest assholes I've had to deal with. From trespassing, to blocking my driveway to actually parking IN my driveway.
I can understand this guy's frustration, really I can, but when you make the biggest purchase of your life, you need to put some thought and research into buying your house. A lesson I learned the hard way.

[Choban]

Difference in this case PA is that the guy is a farmer, meaning he has at least a few acres and the typical Alberta country attitude of it's mine so stay away.
I can see an issue with your backyard or such, but this is probably the back end of his land and he's probably itching to be an ass.

Living off a golf course you have to be prepared to make a few concessions for wayward balls (and the dicks that hit them), and firing a gun is not an acceptable solution to the problem, I'd approach the course about a fence (like at the driving range) to keep them off my property, or just get a large dog and sign saying any trespassers will be chewed on.

[BartSimpson]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

$1:

.. discharged a firearm in a threatening manner.

As opposed to discharging it in a friendly manner.

"*bang* Haha! Made you crap your pants!"

I see we've met.

[Regina]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

$1:

.. discharged a firearm in a threatening manner.

As opposed to discharging it in a friendly manner.

"*bang* Haha! Made you crap your pants!"

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Choban Choban:

Difference in this case PA is that the guy is a farmer, meaning he has at least a few acres and the typical Alberta country attitude of it's mine so stay away.
I can see an issue with your backyard or such, but this is probably the back end of his land and he's probably itching to be an ass.

Living off a golf course you have to be prepared to make a few concessions for wayward balls (and the dicks that hit them), and firing a gun is not an acceptable solution to the problem, I'd approach the course about a fence (like at the driving range) to keep them off my property, or just get a large dog and sign saying any trespassers will be chewed on.

I'm not really arguing for or against what he did. Just that I can fully understand and appreciate both sides of this issue. Let's just say for sake of argument, that since he's a farmer, the golf course came after. I can see having an issue with trespassers. And who knows, he may have already made several complaints to the club house and the police, and somewhat similar to my circumstance, got absolutely nowhere.
In my case, the minister refused to even talk to me, and the city further exacerbated the situation by allowing the church to rent out it's basement to a privately run daycare, which made getting in or out of my driveway like driving the bumper cars at a carnival.
You could be right though. He could just be ithcing to be an ass. I'd like to see an overhead view of the property just to see.

[Choban]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Choban Choban:

Difference in this case PA is that the guy is a farmer, meaning he has at least a few acres and the typical Alberta country attitude of it's mine so stay away.
I can see an issue with your backyard or such, but this is probably the back end of his land and he's probably itching to be an ass.

Living off a golf course you have to be prepared to make a few concessions for wayward balls (and the dicks that hit them), and firing a gun is not an acceptable solution to the problem, I'd approach the course about a fence (like at the driving range) to keep them off my property, or just get a large dog and sign saying any trespassers will be chewed on.

I'm not really arguing for or against what he did. Just that I can fully understand and appreciate both sides of this issue. Let's just say for sake of argument, that since he's a farmer, the golf course came after. I can see having an issue with trespassers. And who knows, he may have already made several complaints to the club house and the police, and somewhat similar to my circumstance, got absolutely nowhere.
In my case, the minister refused to even talk to me, and the city further exacerbated the situation by allowing the church to rent out it's basement to a privately run daycare, which made getting in or out of my driveway like driving the bumper cars at a carnival.
You could be right though. He could just be ithcing to be an ass. I'd like to see an overhead view of the property just to see.

True on both counts, I could see it being a case of both sides (the land owner and the golf course) refusing to reach an accord. Google maps, I'll find it.

[raydan]

$1:

Mucha said the golfers went over a fence that had several signs on it that say "Do Not Enter" and "No Trespassing."

Enough said... case closed.

[BartSimpson]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

I'd like to see an overhead view of the property just to see.

Here you go....

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source= ... 4&t=h&z=16

[BartSimpson]

raydan raydan:

$1:

Mucha said the golfers went over a fence that had several signs on it that say "Do Not Enter" and "No Trespassing."

Enough said... case closed.

In the USA, yes, but in Canada where you have no property rights under the law?

[fifeboy]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

From trespassing, to blocking my driveway to actually parking IN my driveway.

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