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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:32 pm
 


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The company also treats the gasoline with a catalyst that "activates" it, partially oxidizing it to enhance combustion.


First of all wouldn’t this make the gas much more volatile?

Where is it treated, in the storage tanks at the gas station or in the vehicle?

What is the catalyst?


Probably do it the way NOx is used now, or bluetec where they inject urea.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:36 pm
 


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One key question is the impact the high pressures and temperatures will have on how long the engine lasts, Rocke says.



OK, you got me. I missed the part at the bottom. I doubt they will use diesel like blocks tho. They can use cereamic liners to beat the heat, and probably whatever technology is now used in high compression racing engines.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:00 pm
 


But on their website, I did find this:

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TSCiTM Fuel Injection systems are designed to integrate directly with modern high compression engines without major changes. This enables our automotive and engine manufacturers to save hundreds of millions in new powertrain development and program management costs. This is great news for them, for us, and for consumers. Manufacturers will still perform their durability testing to confirm our integrated technology design exceeds their expected vehicle lifetimes. Once completed, Transonic injection will soon be offered in their new vehicle offerings.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:14 pm
 


The oil companies will quietly buy up the patents for this technology to make sure it never hits the market.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:16 pm
 


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The oil companies will quietly buy up the patents for this technology to make sure it never hits the market.


Can't buy something that's not for sale.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:19 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
The oil companies will quietly buy up the patents for this technology to make sure it never hits the market.



Oh, oh. Should I be wearing my foil hat now? :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:21 pm
 


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
The oil companies will quietly buy up the patents for this technology to make sure it never hits the market.



Oh, oh. Should I be wearing my foil hat now? :lol:


Oh, that's right; the oil companies would NEVER do anything like that. My mistake. :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:25 pm
 


poquas poquas:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
The oil companies will quietly buy up the patents for this technology to make sure it never hits the market.



Oh, oh. Should I be wearing my foil hat now? :lol:


Bart is right, the oil companies have bought patents before under the guise of further developing the tech, only to go and kill/bury it.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:32 pm
 


Isn't that what "Who killed the electric car?" was all about.

OTOH, modern gasoline engines are already much more efficient - gas companies weren't able to stop all that progress. The problem is that efficiency was mostly used to bring about more power, rather than less fuel use. But if you look at say VW/Audi's direct injected turbocharged 2L that gets more hp, yet better mileage (or about the same) as their 2.5L, if they tuned that for better fuel economy, it would already represent a good savings.

Direct injection is what diesels use to time their ignition, since they have no spark plugs. I'm not sure why a gasoline direct injection engine could not already go sparkless, doesn't really need this new tech.


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HaRdLy HaRdLy:
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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
The oil companies will quietly buy up the patents for this technology to make sure it never hits the market.



Oh, oh. Should I be wearing my foil hat now? :lol:


Bart is right, the oil companies have bought patents before under the guise of further developing the tech, only to go and kill/bury it.


Name one.


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Bart is right, the oil companies have bought patents before under the guise of further developing the tech, only to go and kill/bury it.


Name one.[/quote]


The carburetor that allowed a car to run on water.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:49 pm
 


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Name one.


http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2007 ... nt-page-1/


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:08 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:


You understand those mileage figures are not for ordinary cars being driven in ordinary situations, right?

The tech in that opel sounds like an older version of what's discussed in this post. Maybe the technology wasn't advanced enough to make it work in those days.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:38 pm
 


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:


You understand those mileage figures are not for ordinary cars being driven in ordinary situations, right?

The tech in that opel sounds like an older version of what's discussed in this post. Maybe the technology wasn't advanced enough to make it work in those days.



Maybe someone at the oil company let it slip..... :lol:

Like I said Bart, Name one.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:54 pm
 


Well, it's a bit of a read but this explains how Chevron and GM worked VERY hard to stall, if not outright prevent, the development of the electric vehicle for as long as they could.

http://ev1.org/#Cerrell


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