[bootlegga]

As bad as it is that the drivers never stopped, the only person really at fault is Larseen, for drinking so much and then stumbling onto a busy highway.

[2Cdo]

andyt andyt:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

andyt andyt:

I'm a little amazed that you find the actions of someone doing something to protect others so awe-inspiring. What a horrible pathetic life you must lead, being afraid to get involved and assist those who need it because you might get an owie.

I'm pretty sure my wife, all 5' 2" is more courageous and tough than you. I hope you never need help and the only people around are like-minded individuals.

Well spout off if you want. But first tell me how you took on a guy with a knife or gun when you had no weapon and were in a constricted space where you could not get a bunch of people to jump him at the same time. Then you can insult me all you want, cause I don't think I would do that. Never know till the time comes tho.

Disarming a guy with a knife in a restricted space is actually very easy, it's all in controlling the wrist and then a few well delivered blows to certain vital areas. Just about any good self defence class can teach you that. The bus incident would have been even easier to take him from behind and render him unconcious.

I will agree with you that one will never know with 100% certainty how one will react to an incident. Training and confidence can help to prepare you for such times.

[andyt]

$1:

RCMP said the witness calls came in rapid succession at about 4:30 a.m. Sunday.

One responding police officer narrowly missed hitting Larsen while switching into the slow lane after passing the transit bus just north of Garibaldi Way, Ritchie said.

The officer activated the cruiser's lights and sirens, but the bus driver didn't have time to stop, Ritchie said.

Larsen was seen at local bars the night before.

[BartSimpson]

Considering all the effort that goes into telling Canadians not to take the law into their own hands or to act as first responders I'm not at all surprised that these people did what they were conditioned to do: they called the 'professionals' and did not get involved in the situation. Had one of them stopped and blocked the road with their car, and then had a family plow a minivan into said car I have ZERO doubt that there'd be condemnation of these people for doing what they are right now being condemned for not doing.

[andyt]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Disarming a guy with a knife in a restricted space is actually very easy, it's all in controlling the wrist and then a few well delivered blows to certain vital areas. Just about any good self defence class can teach you that. The bus incident would have been even easier to take him from behind and render him unconcious.

I will agree with you that one will never know with 100% certainty how one will react to an incident. Training and confidence can help to prepare you for such times.

I would love to see a cage match between you and a guy with a big knife, see how it goes. You've called me out, yet haven't provided any details on just when and where you took on a guy with a knife, in real life, not a class. Until then, I can only assume that it's more about woulda, coulda, shoulda for you, and as you say, you never know till you are actually in the situation.

[BartSimpson]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Disarming a guy with a knife in a restricted space is actually very easy, it's all in controlling the wrist and then a few well delivered blows to certain vital areas. Just about any good self defence class can teach you that. The bus incident would have been even easier to take him from behind and render him unconcious.

I will agree with you that one will never know with 100% certainty how one will react to an incident. Training and confidence can help to prepare you for such times.

I agree with most of this except the part about disarming the guy. So long as you let him hang onto the knife you've got a perfectly defensible reason to kick the hell out of him. Unless you've got a pressing appointment or something why not have a little fun?

[andyt]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Disarming a guy with a knife in a restricted space is actually very easy, it's all in controlling the wrist and then a few well delivered blows to certain vital areas. Just about any good self defence class can teach you that. The bus incident would have been even easier to take him from behind and render him unconcious.

I will agree with you that one will never know with 100% certainty how one will react to an incident. Training and confidence can help to prepare you for such times.

I agree with most of this except the part about disarming the guy. So long as you let him hang onto the knife you've got a perfectly defensible reason to kick the hell out of him. Unless you've got a pressing appointment or something why not have a little fun?

You a tough guy too, Bart? You've actually done this?

[2Cdo]

andyt andyt:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Disarming a guy with a knife in a restricted space is actually very easy, it's all in controlling the wrist and then a few well delivered blows to certain vital areas. Just about any good self defence class can teach you that. The bus incident would have been even easier to take him from behind and render him unconcious.

I will agree with you that one will never know with 100% certainty how one will react to an incident. Training and confidence can help to prepare you for such times.

I would love to see a cage match between you and a guy with a big knife, see how it goes. You've called me out, yet haven't provided any details on just when and where you took on a guy with a knife, in real life, not a class. Until then, I can only assume that it's more about woulda, coulda, shoulda for you, and as you say, you never know till you are actually in the situation.

I've merely responded to your tough guy/hero comments, sorry if being referred to as chickensh*t offends you, but by your own admission you won't help anyone if it means any potential harm to yourself. As far as details, would it matter? You are shocked that anyone would step up at personal risk to themselves to assist others, so even a police report and a signed affidavit would not be good enough for you. Suffice to say, I know what I have done during my "incident" and know how I would react. You can assume whatever you want but at the end of the day I stand by my earlier post and say that if you ever find yourself in a situation that requires assistance it would really suck if the only people available are those with your self absorbed mindset, afraid to make a stand.

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[andyt]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

I've merely responded to your tough guy/hero comments, sorry if being referred to as chickensh*t offends you, but by your own admission you won't help anyone if it means any potential harm to yourself. As far as details, would it matter? You are shocked that anyone would step up at personal risk to themselves to assist others, so even a police report and a signed affidavit would not be good enough for you. Suffice to say, I know what I have done during my "incident" and know how I would react. You can assume whatever you want but at the end of the day I stand by my earlier post and say that if you ever find yourself in a situation that requires assistance it would really suck if the only people available are those with your self absorbed mindset, afraid to make a stand.

My admission was that in the Vince Lee incident I would have serious reservations about stepping in. I didn't say I would not help anyone if it means any potential harm to myself.

As for wanting details, I'm not talking about names, dates, location. I'm talking about a description of what you did. I'll take your word for it. Until then, I'm thinking you're just another internet hero.

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[andyt]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

andyt, I see no reason for your hostile remarks towards others and your complete lack of respect for anyone here that I've seen for more then the past week.

It's confusing me.

There is no need to bite at everyone's ankles, calm the hell down.

Very strange board this. He calls me a chickenshit, and that's OK. I challenge him to back up his statement that he's disarmed a knife wielding attacker (or equivalent) and that's a personal attack?

[wildrosegirl]

Holy Little Man's Syndrome....

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[Brenda]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

I'm not surprised.

Which is sad in itself...