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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:15 pm
OldChum OldChum: Both sides are equal as it is a terrible tragedy but the circumstances brought it on . But who was 'the author' of said circumstances? AR and his family who were enjoying the sanctity of their home, or my son and his buddies?
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:42 pm
Alta_redneck Alta_redneck: Oh man, Hyack is just going to come unglued.  Keeps him on his toes!
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:33 pm
Gunnair Gunnair: Yogi Yogi: DrCaleb DrCaleb: Wow. Didn't see that coming, him living in the area and all. And even issuing the statement a few months back for the bomber to turn himself in.
But we all knew he was a good citizen, being in the right when he shot and killed that 16 year old girl and all. There is a lot that is not known about Carmen Wilis's death. What is known is that she was a passenger in a pick-up truck, which had tresspassed onto the Trickle Creek property, late at night, and was tearing around across the front yard, burning donuts close to the main house, ignoring the screams, shouts, and warnings from the residents. The fatal shot was fired by one of the residents only after the truck came within a few feet of a tent with children and young people in it.The death of Carmen Willis was tragic indeed, but certainly avoidable. The driver of the truck is the one who should be held to account! If you thought family or friends were in imminent danger, that serious injury or quite possibly even death was a very real outcome of anothers reckless and wilfull actions,what would you have done in the heat of the moment?Agreed. Totally avoidable, on all fronts. But whoever pulled the rifle out need to be as responsible for the incident as the driver of the car. They need to man up and take responsibility for the defence of their property and lives. If it was justifiable, it need to be out in the open. Instead, we are left with questions.
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:08 pm
QBall QBall: $1: Ludwig was convicted in connection with two Alberta gas-well bombings that took place in 1998, and served 28 months in prison. Hmmm, previous conviction for bombing gas related equipment; lived 25 kilometers from the B.C. border; and yet it took them 15 months to figure out who did it? Who was leading the investigation? Inspector Clouseau? Anyhoo time to put the guy away for good. Throw away the key type of scenario. He was actually the first one they looked at. At the time, they were saying that they'd investigated him, but had no case against him. What that means is (hindsight being 20/20 and all), they knew it was him but let him think he was off the hook, while they were gathering enough evidence against him to make the charges stick so he didn't get off on some chicken s**t loophole or technicality. Common practice and a smart move. I hope they do nail him good this time. Crazy old coot.
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BionicBunny 
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:47 am
I can't recall his name right now but Ludwig isn't the only convicted bomber living in B.C. There is another man who was convicted of bombing sites in the 1980's and has been living the past number of years on a Native reserve in B.C.
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:21 am
Yogi Yogi: OldChum OldChum: Both sides are equal as it is a terrible tragedy but the circumstances brought it on . But who was 'the author' of said circumstances? AR and his family who were enjoying the sanctity of their home, or my son and his buddies? Doe,s it really matter people have died and safety has been compromised for what , somebody's point of view . Still doe,s not justify a life long grudge .
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:20 am
Released this morning.
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:35 am
Gunnair Gunnair: Yogi Yogi: DrCaleb DrCaleb: Wow. Didn't see that coming, him living in the area and all. And even issuing the statement a few months back for the bomber to turn himself in.
But we all knew he was a good citizen, being in the right when he shot and killed that 16 year old girl and all. There is a lot that is not known about Carmen Wilis's death. What is known is that she was a passenger in a pick-up truck, which had tresspassed onto the Trickle Creek property, late at night, and was tearing around across the front yard, burning donuts close to the main house, ignoring the screams, shouts, and warnings from the residents. The fatal shot was fired by one of the residents only after the truck came within a few feet of a tent with children and young people in it.The death of Carmen Willis was tragic indeed, but certainly avoidable. The driver of the truck is the one who should be held to account! If you thought family or friends were in imminent danger, that serious injury or quite possibly even death was a very real outcome of anothers reckless and wilfull actions,what would you have done in the heat of the moment?Agreed. Agreed.
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:14 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb: Gunnair Gunnair: DrCaleb DrCaleb: Wow. Didn't see that coming, him living in the area and all. And even issuing the statement a few months back for the bomber to turn himself in.
But we all knew he was a good citizen, being in the right when he shot and killed that 16 year old girl and all. There is a lot that is not known about Carmen Wilis's death. What is known is that she was a passenger in a pick-up truck, which had tresspassed onto the Trickle Creek property, late at night, and was tearing around across the front yard, burning donuts close to the main house, ignoring the screams, shouts, and warnings from the residents. The fatal shot was fired by one of the residents only after the truck came within a few feet of a tent with children and young people in it.The death of Carmen Willis was tragic indeed, but certainly avoidable. The driver of the truck is the one who should be held to account! If you thought family or friends were in imminent danger, that serious injury or quite possibly even death was a very real outcome of anothers reckless and wilfull actions,what would you have done in the heat of the moment?Agreed. Totally avoidable, on all fronts. But whoever pulled the rifle out need to be as responsible for the incident as the driver of the car. They need to man up and take responsibility for the defence of their property and lives. If it was justifiable, it need to be out in the open. Instead, we are left with questions.[/quote] I certainly agree with you on that point Caleb. 'Whoever' fired the shot should 'man-up', and let the legal system weigh-in with all the known facts.
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