[Bouboumaster]

uwish uwish:

but you were fine with the liberal scandals and lack of Canadian identity. If that is the case, then I don't really care what your opinion is...

It depends what is for you "Canadian Identity".

Because right now, we look like a lot like the USA.

I always perceived that Canada should like the way Trudeau handled it.

[gigs]

Bouboumaster Bouboumaster:

uwish uwish:

but you were fine with the liberal scandals and lack of Canadian identity. If that is the case, then I don't really care what your opinion is...

It depends what is for you "Canadian Identity".

Because right now, we look like a lot like the USA.

I always perceived that Canada should like the way Trudeau handled it.

I have a one fingered response to that one.

[kenmore]

Bouboumaster Bouboumaster:

uwish uwish:

but you were fine with the liberal scandals and lack of Canadian identity. If that is the case, then I don't really care what your opinion is...

It depends what is for you "Canadian Identity".

Because right now, we look like a lot like the USA.

I always perceived that Canada should like the way Trudeau handled it.

And you are right.. Trudeau was the greatest PM and he put Canada on the map and gave us an identity.. man could we use a guy like him right now.

[Gunnair]

Bouboumaster Bouboumaster:

uwish uwish:

but you were fine with the liberal scandals and lack of Canadian identity. If that is the case, then I don't really care what your opinion is...

It depends what is for you "Canadian Identity".

Because right now, we look like a lot like the USA.

I always perceived that Canada should like the way Trudeau handled it.

Trudeau did some good, but he divided the country along regional lines like no other PM has before. Western alienation strengthened under his watch to the point that western seperation became an idea (which has ultimately failed) Only Chretian came close to that kind of alienation, and some can argue Harper will be a close third for his treatment of the east.

[gigs]

Harper has mistreated the east? how?

[CanadianJeff]

It's not that he's mistreated them it's that he's taken away alot of their hold in the Senate and Courts and given the west more representation.

Sometimes you don't need to mistreat a person for them to hate you if you treat them like they are on your level.

People like to be treated how they think others see them not as they really are. It's a twist on the looking glass theory. At least that's my thesis on provincial identity in politics.

[Gunnair]

gigs gigs:

Harper has mistreated the east? how?

'treatment'...

Move your lips if you have to...

[Gunnair]

CanadianJeff CanadianJeff:

It's not that he's mistreated them it's that he's taken away alot of their hold in the Senate and Courts and given the west more representation.

Sometimes you don't need to mistreat a person for them to hate you if you treat them like they are on your level.

People like to be treated how they think others see them not as they really are. It's a twist on the looking glass theory. At least that's my thesis on provincial identity in politics.

Exactly. It's small peanuts to many, whether it's Quebec arts funding, the ongoing pissing contest with Danny in NFL, or any number of small things, it's change that the east does not like after years of Liberal rule. Whether the west likes it or not, a Canadian PM, even a CPC from Alberta, has to be sensitive to that change and the reactions it will bring.

[kenmore]

gigs gigs:

Harper has mistreated the east? how?

Hmm think he kinda pissed of Nfld, Québec and NS... he is a western supporter and being from Calgary it is kind of understandable.. yes I know he was born in Ontario...

[CanadianJeff]

kenmore kenmore:

gigs gigs:

Harper has mistreated the east? how?

Hmm think he kinda pissed of Nfld, Québec and NS... he is a western supporter and being from Calgary it is kind of understandable.. yes I know he was born in Ontario...

Home is where the Heart is.

[OldChum]

And that is one thing that is good he is from the west as we have had to take what the east gave us for to long . And that is because of the stupidity of Quebec and the non stop pampering .

[Bouboumaster]

OldChum OldChum:

And that is one thing that is good he is from the west as we have had to take what the east gave us for to long . And that is because of the stupidity of Quebec and the non stop pampering .

Fuck that noise.

The guy is completly destroying what Canada represented before Harper's arrival.

Before Harper: Cool-as-hell country, open-minded, tolerent, paradise on Earth, pacifist

After Harper: USA's bitch, failed warrior, environnemental desaster

[Bodah]

Bouboumaster Bouboumaster:

OldChum OldChum:

And that is one thing that is good he is from the west as we have had to take what the east gave us for to long . And that is because of the stupidity of Quebec and the non stop pampering .

Fuck that noise.

The guy is completly destroying what Canada represented before Harper's arrival.

Before Harper: Cool-as-hell country, open-minded, tolerent, paradise on Earth, pacifist

After Harper: USA's bitch, failed warrior, environnemental desaster

Harper is the best Prime Minister we've had in a long time IMO, if there was an election tomorrow he would win again so your in the minority, but you obviously get your information from the Quebec media/TVA, so keeping on listening to the bullshit.

Prove how he was USA's bitch.

[Bouboumaster]

Bodah Bodah:

Bouboumaster Bouboumaster:

OldChum OldChum:

And that is one thing that is good he is from the west as we have had to take what the east gave us for to long . And that is because of the stupidity of Quebec and the non stop pampering .

Fuck that noise.

The guy is completly destroying what Canada represented before Harper's arrival.

Before Harper: Cool-as-hell country, open-minded, tolerent, paradise on Earth, pacifist

After Harper: USA's bitch, failed warrior, environnemental desaster

Harper is the best Prime Minister we've had in a long time IMO, if there was an election tomorrow he would win again so your in the minority, but you obviously get your information from the Quebec media/TVA, so keeping on listening to the bullshit.

Prove how he was USA's bitch.

He would probably won again only because quebeckers vote (sadly) in vast majority for the BLOC. I don't think I'm in minority while I'm thinking this cat is an ass. In fact, that's probably why he's in a minority, right now.

As for the Quebec's Media, it seems they can't be worse that where you get your informations. Even if Pierre-Karl Peladeau is a Grade-A asshole.



http://thetyee.ca/Mediacheck/2005/11/29/HarperBush/

[Caelon]

Bouboumaster Bouboumaster:

OldChum OldChum:

And that is one thing that is good he is from the west as we have had to take what the east gave us for to long . And that is because of the stupidity of Quebec and the non stop pampering .

Fuck that noise.

The guy is completly destroying what Canada represented before Harper's arrival.

Before Harper: Cool-as-hell country, open-minded, tolerent, paradise on Earth, pacifist

After Harper: USA's bitch, failed warrior, environnemental desaster

It is a matter of perspective. If you are east of 90* of longitude then you may perceive that the years under Trudeau and Chretien were for the benefit of all of Canada. If you are west of 90* of longitude you may perceive those years as being devisive and a periodic economic disaster in order to benefit those east of 90* of longitude. It may also impact your view of the direction of social policy for Canada and the direction Canada should move on the world stage.

As a country we have done more to generate regional disparity and misunderstanding than what, as an outsider, I perceive of other countries. Your view may differ, but it appears from your statements you are east of 90* of longitude while I am not.