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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:07 pm
 


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Are you comparing soldiers of the Canadian Forces to Hamas? 8O


It's a good idea to keep the military outside of our cities.


I used to live next to a CF (Reserve) Armoury.

They were good neighbours. I don't know what your problem with the Canadian Forces is.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:08 pm
 


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Uh what? That's a nice spin there Curtman. The Liberals weren't saying "we shouldn't do it", they were LYING and FEAR MONGERING trying to convince Canadians that if they elect Harper there would be soldiers in the streets. Kinda ironic since we both know there's only one party who ever declared martial law.


I realize the conservatives have a monopoly on fear mongering. I hope you guys at least got some royalties.

Just full of non-answers today arentcha? So you're basically saying that it's okay to lie and fear-monger so long as it's Liberals doing it. Okay gotcha. And of course anyone's reaction to those lies is an indication to you that they must approve of "hiding soldiers in with civilians", right?

are you drunk today? because nothing you've said so far connects or makes any sense at all.





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Akhenaten Akhenaten:
Curtman Curtman:
Akhenaten Akhenaten:
Uh what? That's a nice spin there Curtman. The Liberals weren't saying "we shouldn't do it", they were LYING and FEAR MONGERING trying to convince Canadians that if they elect Harper there would be soldiers in the streets. Kinda ironic since we both know there's only one party who ever declared martial law.


I realize the conservatives have a monopoly on fear mongering. I hope you guys at least got some royalties.

Just full of non-answers today arentcha? So you're basically saying that it's okay to lie and fear-monger so long as it's Liberals doing it. Okay gotcha. And of course anyone's reaction to those lies is an indication to you that they must approve of "hiding soldiers in with civilians", right?

are you drunk today? because nothing you've said so far connects or makes any sense at all.


I don't understand where the lie comes from. The ad said:

"Stephen Harper actually announced he wants to increase military presence in our cities."

Did he not do that?


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:21 pm
 


(sigh) okay play stupid. We're talking about the Liberals fearmongering of suggesting that if Harper was elected there'll be 'soldiers in the streets'. THAT's the lie

Thanos said: "Well, at least the Liberals were joking this time, as opposed to the previous "troops in Canadian streets" thing that they were deadly serious about."

You replied rather nonsenically: "I still say it's stupid to complain about Hamas hiding among civilians, then to get upset when someone says we shouldn't do it."

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"Stephen Harper actually announced he wants to increase military presence in our cities."

Did he not do that?

No he didn't....and MUCH more importantly they aren't. And that's not what the liberal ad said either....AND it's got nothing to do with Hamas either.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:24 pm
 


Before you rush to answer Curtman:
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TORONTO —

Liberal Leader Paul Martin today defended an unaired TV ad accusing Stephen Harper of wanting to put armed soldiers in Canadian cities, saying the Liberals were simply showing the differences between the two party positions.

He also defended the rest of the series of ads attacking the Conservative Leader, saying they are not attack ads because they are true.

The military ad, which was never aired but which appeared on the Liberal website, was roundly condemned by soldiers who say it paints them in a negative light.


But Mr. Martin told CTV's Canada AM "there's no attack on the soldiers. We support the soldiers."

"I support our military," Mr. Martin said. "I've probably put more money into the military than almost any prime minister.

"(The ads have) nothing to do with soldiers."

"I have increased soldiers' pay. I have a huge admiration for the soldiers," Mr. Martin said. "Take a look at what we're attacking. There's support for the soldiers."

The ad starts with ominous music in the background and declares Mr. Harper would put "soldiers with guns" in Canadian cities.

It says: "Stephen Harper actually announced he wants to increase military presence in our cities. Canadian cities. Soldiers with guns. In our cities. In Canada. We did not make this up."

Mr. Martin was asked why — after he accused the Conservatives of "drive-by smears" — his campaign was turning its guns on Mr. Harper.

"I think if you're in public life, you've got to be prepared to stand behind what you have said," Mr. Martin said in reference to comments Mr. Harper made 10 years ago, calling Canada a northern European welfare state in the worst sense of the term.


"That's not an attack ad. That is: You have a set of values; I have a set of values. Let's debate."

He was asked on CTV's Canada AM whether he personally approved all the Liberal ads.

"Oh, sure, sure," Mr. Martin replied.

The Liberal Leader also said Mr. Harper's plan to establish a permanent military presence in major Canadian cities as a ready aid in emergencies (this was after the Liberals sent in soldiers to help Winnipeg with it's flood, so they have no right to complain) — the pledge at the heart of the controversial Liberal ad — would dilute the Forces and create an administrative and logistical nightmare.

"It's not me," Mr. Martin said. "[The chief of defence staff, Gen. Rick] Hillier's the one who said: 'I want to have a Canada Command. I want to be able to really have top-flight soldiers in top-flight positions with top-flight equipment.'

"You can't do that if it's spread out all across the country."

The comments were the most extensive analysis Martin has offered on Liberal defence policy in the campaign to date.

However, another Liberal MP blamed an "idiot" in the party for allowing the release of the ad.

Keith Martin says the ad was "appalling" and apologized to members of the military who were offended by it.

The Victoria-area MP's riding includes CFB Esquimalt, headquarters of Canada's Pacific naval fleet.

Mr. Martin was a member of the Reform party and the Canadian Alliance before he bolted to the Liberals before the 2004 election.

Last week he chose not to attend a health-care announcement with the prime minister, the health minister and other Liberal candidates, an absence that the Liberal Leader blamed on a scheduling conflict.

But Keith Martin — also a doctor who advocates the use of the private system as part of the overhaul of the health-care system — conceded he stayed away over a philosophical conflict.

In Markham, the Liberal Leader unveiled a proposal to inject a $180-million in support for four research and development initiatives in Markham, Toronto and Waterloo. The concept is to bring together technology firms and university researchers.

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(sigh) okay play stupid. We're talking about the Liberals fearmongering of suggesting that if Harper was elected there'll be 'soldiers in the streets'. THAT's the lie


Play stupid yourself. The conservatives think it's a great idea to have soldiers in our cities. It's an opinion, maybe not a good one, but its an opinion.

Its not a lie to say that it is.

If they said Stephen Harper wants to bring soldiers on to our streets to shoot you and your family... That would probably be a lie. (I don't read everything Steve says, I'm not 100% sure about that)


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:34 pm
 


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The conservatives think it's a great idea to have soldiers in our cities.
No they don't. That's a lie. You are lying. The reason you don't think there's anything wrong with it is because your party lies. You are trying to use propaganda and you're clumsy at it.

What Harper said is that it might be worthwhile --AFTER THE EXPERIENCE OF THE WINNIPEG FLOOD WHEN THE LIBERALS SENT TROOPS IN TO HELP OUT -- to keep a permanint presence there in case of other disasters.

Now you simply CANNOT with any degree of honesty or integrity watch the Liberals send in the army with great effect to help Winnipeg and then call Harper a nazi-fascist-warmonger-whatever for recognizing something that worked well and trying to come up with a less haphazard plan for next time.

Whatever. i'm so tired of these dishonest games. Obviously you have no problem with the fascist Chretien regieme ordering armed troops into the poor innocent city of Winnipeg to establish martial law and push the people around (and maybe put up a few sand bags). Fine then. You're a fascist. Thanks for admitting it. :roll:


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saturn_656 saturn_656:
Curtman Curtman:
saturn_656 saturn_656:
Are you comparing soldiers of the Canadian Forces to Hamas? 8O


It's a good idea to keep the military outside of our cities.


I used to live next to a CF (Reserve) Armoury.

They were good neighbours. I don't know what your problem with the Canadian Forces is.


That they were. Living near to CFB Calgary and the Currie Barracks was awesome. We'd always see the troops out doing their full-pack hikes and whatnot on summer days in the area. They were certainly better neighbours than what followed them when they left and dark era of "Blackbear Crossing" (ugh) was inflicted on southwest Calgary.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:40 pm
 


Curtman Curtman:
Play stupid yourself. The conservatives think it's a great idea to have soldiers in our cities. It's an opinion, maybe not a good one, but its an opinion.

Its not a lie to say that it is.

If they said Stephen Harper wants to bring soldiers on to our streets to shoot you and your family... That would probably be a lie. (I don't read everything Steve says, I'm not 100% sure about that)


You need to change your brand of weed. If you're seeing soldiers in the streets that stuff you are smoking contains LSD.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:01 pm
 


Curtman Curtman:
saturn_656 saturn_656:
Are you comparing soldiers of the Canadian Forces to Hamas? 8O


It's a good idea to keep the military outside of our cities.


..... and you've made the list. Whatever else you may post, you just dropped one of the biggests nuggests of dumbness I've seen in a bit.

Funny, no one was bitching at me when I and the soldiers in my boat were driving up and down the roads of Ile des Chenes delivering sandbags and patroling their homes for them.

That was just plain stupid.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:09 pm
 


Curtman Curtman:
saturn_656 saturn_656:
Are you comparing soldiers of the Canadian Forces to Hamas? 8O


It's a good idea to keep the military outside of our cities.



You think our own military should be kept out of Canadian cities? Really? Why?

As our resident drug trafficker are you averse to all uniforms?

These guys are fighting and dying while you smuggle weed and nutmeg but you don't think they are fit to be based in our cities?

Wow. You really are something.





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Curtman Curtman:
saturn_656 saturn_656:
Are you comparing soldiers of the Canadian Forces to Hamas? 8O


It's a good idea to keep the military outside of our cities.



You think our own military should be kept out of Canadian cities? Really? Why?

As our resident drug trafficker are you averse to all uniforms?

These guys are fighting and dying while you smuggle weed and nutmeg but you don't think they are fit to be based in our cities?

Wow. You really are something.


If we attack some country, we attack military targets and try to avoid civilian ones. Civilian casualties are blamed on the enemy hiding among civilians.

Why do you think its a good idea to endanger the civilians they are supposed to protect?

They moved PPCLI out of Winnipeg, and now the government is sitting on the hottest piece of commercial real estate in town. It's win-win. Shilo is a much better place to concentrate our forces.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:32 pm
 


What's your problem with seeing soldiers?
This isn't the West Bank.

It's highly unlikely that a Garrison in a Canadian city will be a target that will put civilians at hazard.

A grow-op in a sub-division is much more likely to cause a hazard yet you support those.

Really screwed up priorties curtman.

Grow-ops are ok.

Canadian soldiers 'aint?


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:39 pm
 


What a goof, Curtman. Your even giving political hacks a bad name.

This is just the typical Liberal BS that troops are an embarassment and need to be kept out of sight. All the better to have gangs and crack houses instead.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:59 pm
 


Quirkman can't respond, he's busy splicing hydro lines into his basement. Then he has to go get some more pictures of the TVA floodgates and claim they are from Winnipeg.


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