[CanadianJeff]

I agree with Zipperfish on this one.

Still I can understand where the school is coming from too. You shouldn't try and force admiration and respect for a nation onto it's people. Part of freedom is being able to choose to be proud of your country or to criticize it's actions.

It's a consequence of enjoying freedom that sometimes you have to let those that mock the ideas of freedom speak to preserve it.

[Hyack]

Etiquette during the playing of the national anthem

$1:

As a matter of respect and tradition, it is proper to stand for the playing of "O Canada" as well as for the anthem of any other nation.

It is traditional for civilian men to take off their hats during the playing of the national anthem. Women as well as children do not remove their hats on such occasions.

There is no law or behaviour governing the playing of the national anthem; it is left to the good citizenship of individuals.

Welcome to the 21st century where there is no respect for tradition, nationalism, war veterans, public or private property, the law or anything else for that matter. The young people of this country just don't give a damn about anything but themselves. The biggest problem though is that WE are allowing them to get away with it!....

[Bodah]

CanadianJeff CanadianJeff:

I agree with Zipperfish on this one.

Still I can understand where the school is coming from too. You shouldn't try and force admiration and respect for a nation onto it's people. Part of freedom is being able to choose to be proud of your country or to criticize it's actions.

Kids could care less to be honest with you whether they sit or stand, I dont think at that young of an age their thinking of Canada's foreign policy and whether its their right to sit down in protest over Canada's involvement in Afghanistan for example.

This is all about the parents who dont want their kids to be responsible for anything, obviously people that have a problem with the anthem, have a problem with patriotism. Maybe they view it as too American ? A great generations of sloths were raising.

I still dont get whats so wrong with respecting the anthem in the country that you live in. I never understood it in in High School, but we all stopped what we were doing, stood up, sang it or listened.

Too much to ask of our youth these days I suppose.

[Zipperfish]

Choban Choban:

Zipper, at least you take the time and make the effort to educate your kids on issues the schools lack, I do as well and I know of alot of parents that don't.
Having said that, my parents faced the strap in school as did their parents before them. I got a swat from my folks when I did wrong (though I had to cross a pretty long line before it happened). Theres nothing wrong with me or my folks.
I don't hit my kid, personally I've never found it nessesary not that he's an angel. (my wife doesn't believe in it either, though she was beat as a child)
BUUUUT, there are kids I know personally, that if they were mine, they certainly would have received a smack on the ass for their behavior.

Well it did me some harm. I did not react well to stangers hitting me as a child. Actually, I didn't allow them to hit me. I didn't think that would be considered odd behaviour, but apparently it was. It created a number of issues at several schools and generally had a negative effect on me for some years.

[Robair]

We did not have the anthem every day when I went to school, it was only for things like graduation, sports or other such ceremonies.

Witnessing kids dissrespecting the anthem would boil my blood too, but at the same time, playing it every day probably takes something away from it. Maybe not, I don't know.

On a side note, you see full grown men wear hats during national anthems all the time. Pisses me off every time, but it goes to show it's not just today's kids. They learn by watching their dads at the hockey game.

[raydan]

I guess respect nowadays has to be enforced.

Like when my kids' friends came to my house and would sit at the kitchen table to eat with their caps on. They had the choice to either take the cap off and eat or go hungry.

[gigs]

The anthem is the only thing that unites Canadians from all religions and ethnic backgrounds yet people are inconvenienced when it's played.

pathetic

[Bodah]

raydan raydan:

I guess respect nowadays has to be enforced.

Close, more relative this way...

I guess respect nowadays cannot be enforced.

[Zipperfish]

I don't know--what about teh Baby Boomers and teh hippe movement of teh 60s. That seemed a lot more of a threat than not standing up for the anthem. If you're complaing about "today's youth" it probably means you're just old.

[Akhenaten]

$1:

If you're complaing about "today's youth" it probably means you're just old.

Or grown up.

[Brenda]

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

$1:

If you're complaing about "today's youth" it probably means you're just old.

Or grown up.

Whats the difference?

[Akhenaten]

Between simply 'grown up' and 'old'?

I confess the question confuses me.

[raydan]

Bodah Bodah:

raydan raydan:

I guess respect nowadays has to be enforced.

Close, more relative this way...

I guess respect nowadays cannot be enforced.

I don't mean enforced by laws, but by those that have respect and expect it in return. Withholding food from a teen is one form of enforcement. Bitch slapping them across the head or a swift kick in the ass work pretty good too.

[Zipperfish]

raydan raydan:

Bodah Bodah:

raydan raydan:

I guess respect nowadays has to be enforced.

Close, more relative this way...

I guess respect nowadays cannot be enforced.

I don't mean enforced by laws, but by those that have respect and expect it in return. Withholding food from a teen is one form of enforcement. Bitch slapping them across the head or a swift kick in the ass work pretty good too.

Unitl you're spitting out your teeth like bloody Chiclets.

[raydan]

All jokes aside, in reality, respect is learned at home.
Forget friends, school, TV and video games.
If the parents show no respect or don't have the time, energy or patience to teach their kids, well forget it.
Kids observe their parents and if they so not see respect, they will not learn it.