[ASLplease]

in a previous thread someone suggested that someone that doesn't agree with the afganistan war might not want to observe 2 minutes of silence.

Anyone that isn't an imigrant would be smart enough to realize the remembrance day isn't a current events day.

[EyeBrock]

I did the citizenship test in 1998.
It was a joke. I studied the crappy booklet which basically told me fuck-all about Canada.
I knew so little about my new country that I decided to take distance learning courses in Canadian history with Waterloo.

I did all this AFTER I got my citizenship because there is no requirement for new citizens to learn anything about Canada's history, which after all started about 1967 and with Trudeau.

The one good thing is that I appear to know more about Canadian history now than a very large majority of Canadians. Great for trivial pursuit and jeopardy.

[kenmore]

Kenney has some good ideas as far as immigration goes.. heard him on CBC to-day .. too bad he wasn't a liberal..

[ridenrain]

We need to merge this with the other link because it's far more than just another Liberal bitchfest.
http://www.canadaka.net/link.php?id=51459

$1:

In discussing gender equality, the new guide says Canada's openness doesn’t include "barbaric cultural practices that tolerate spousal abuse, honour killings, female genital mutilation or other gender-based violence."

That is a huge step forward that Canada needs.
Bring us your tired, dirty, smelly, whatever, but each an devery one of you has the same rights here, reguardless of what you did in your own country, or what your religion preaches. Our society and way of life is more valuable than any religion.

[bootlegga]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

What a hyperbolic and factually incorrect statement. It was the Liberal government that instituted the points system and created the damn citizenship test, which includes plenty of questions about the Constitution and government. The only thing that seems new here is questions about the military, which Im not sure would really be all that relevant.

No doubt.

I'm damned proud of the CF and its past accomplishments, but I don't see how they rate questions on a citizenship exam. Sounds like something you'd have in a third world banana republic.

I prefer the questions they have now, like who is PM, when was the country founded, and what are some province names. It's far more relevant to being a Canadian than asking who the general was who lead the 1st Canadian Army in WW2. Yes, the test is dead easy (only 20 questions in total), but I've read the booklet they give you to study and it covers a lot of material (like the Constitution, how Parliament works and some broad history and geography).

Frankly, I'd be surprised if most Canadians know much of the material in that booklet.

[ridenrain]

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http://www.scribd.com/doc/22475907/Discover-Canada

Yeah Canada.

[EyeBrock]

I respectfully disagree. It’s quite obvious that the great Canadian public are now back into their military.

The Remembrance Day parades I attended in the mid to late 1990’s were bereft of our citizens.

It’s not the case now, I could hardly hear the pipe band on Wednesday for the applause from all the citizens at the Burlington Cenotaph.

The sacrifices of Canadians in the Boer War, WW1, WW2, Korea, Afghanistan and the various other missions the CF have been on deserve equal place with telling newcomers that we value recycling.

Come on. The previous handbook was a joke. I read it, I became a citizen from it, I learned nothing about Canada from it.

[Lemmy]

We think that our involvement in foreign wars is important enough that every kid in Canada has to take a course on in grade 10. Immigrants ought to learn Canadian history, especially in the 20th century, just as our kids must.

Furthermore, to be informed voters, immigrants ought to understand our foreign policies today, and at least a basic understanding of our military is important for that end.

Canada shouldn't be a haven for dumbasses. We home-grow enough of them as it is. We should be challenging our new Canadians to learn about all aspects of their new home.

[EyeBrock]

Nicely put Lemmy.

[PluggyRug]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Come on. The previous handbook was a joke. I read it, I became a citizen from it, I learned nothing about Canada from it.

You got that right.

When my family and I went to see the judge we chatted about the weather, and could I take a gander at his faulty computer. No serious questions regarding Canada and it's history.

[martin14]

Well said Lemmy.

[BeaverFever]

Canadas involvement in foreign wars is an important part of our history, sure, and immigrants should learn our history. If thats what they ment by learning about the Canadian military then fine. I think it would only be relevant within that broader context of how we developed as a nation and our role in the modern world.

I guess what I inferred was that there would be some separate section dedicated to war stories and military trivia that somebody thought would impress immigrants somehow. It seems that many immigrants have a less idealistic view of war and military service than we do and so if this is the case I doubt it would be very useful.

[Brenda]

Knowing the history of a country is what makes it. Its the only way to understand a country. In your motherland, you just live it. In your new country, you have to learn it.

[EyeBrock]

Beaver, new immigrants need to know that although we are a peaceful country, we are quite willing to fight for the freedoms we have.
They also need to know the military are an extension of the country and act on the orders of parliament, unlike in the developing world where the army is usually a tool of state oppression.

[PENATRATOR]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

The one good thing is that I appear to know more about Canadian history now than a very large majority of Canadians. Great for trivial pursuit and jeopardy.

...and gaining respect from your fellow countrymen, for taking the time to be a better citizen IMO