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Posts: 2074
 Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:43 pm
Respect can't be legislated. My son is a Navy League cadet. At the end of each Thurs. parade, the flag is lowered in what we call "sunset". I actually had to tell a couple of parents at the back of the room to please stop talking as the flag was being lowered. These people are not newcomers either. I can't believe that sometimes adults have to be reminded to respect the flag in front of their children. Where are their heads at?
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:07 pm
WDHIII WDHIII: Mandatory?
No.
Doesnt sound like the freedom that these men were fighting for....... Word. I have all the respect and love in the world for veterans and active service members. But a lot of this stuff is getting way too overwhelmingly maudlin and sentimental. Thanks to the never ending flood of e-mails I seem to get on this subject and some of the soap-operaesque clips you can see on YouTube, it's practically gotten to the point now where I half expect people to break out weeping just at the mere sight of someone in uniform. Honour them? Yes, absoutely. Do a hell of alot more to help them if they come back wounded or with PTSD? 100% fucking agreement from me. Worship them as icons? No way. And I seriously doubt that the vast majority of vets and active members, considering that they're adults and not babies, even want something like that anyway.
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Posts: 11108
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:01 pm
Thanos Thanos: Word. I have all the respect and love in the world for veterans and active service members. But a lot of this stuff is getting way too overwhelmingly maudlin and sentimental. Thanks to the never ending flood of e-mails I seem to get on this subject and some of the soap-operaesque clips you can see on YouTube, it's practically gotten to the point now where I half expect people to break out weeping just at the mere sight of someone in uniform.
Honour them? Yes, absoutely. Do a hell of alot more to help them if they come back wounded or with PTSD? 100% fucking agreement from me. Worship them as icons? No way. And I seriously doubt that the vast majority of vets and active members, considering that they're adults and not babies, even want something like that anyway. Good point. None that I know want it like that, I certainly don't. There is already some elements of worship starting. The one that comes to mind is the McRae poem. It seems like it's become some sort of prayer that must be recited by one and all.
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ridenrain
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Posts: 22594
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:08 pm
No. I want to see who the inconsiderate assholes are.
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:56 pm
WDHIII WDHIII: Mandatory?
No.
Doesnt sound like the freedom that these men were fighting for....... I agree but at the same time I think that the ceremony itself has become far too passive and has lost its impact. That may be that there are fewer vets around every year. I would hate to see this become some hollow ritual but the idea that the buses, planes, phones, cites and people fall silent for just a moment has a profound resonance. I like it.
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Brenda
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Posts: 50938
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:02 pm
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ASLplease
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Posts: 4183
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:08 pm
WDHIII WDHIII: Mandatory?
No.
Doesnt sound like the freedom that these men were fighting for....... I think it is twisted language for use the words "manditory" and "freedom" in an inflamatory way to describe the simple and admireable act of calling a scheduled school assembly that educates, says a few kind words, then asks everyone to join in a moment of silence... ....to label this as mandatory, and therefore taking away our freedoms, WTF is that about?!?!!?!?!... ....that is exactly the kind of backward thinking freedom that these men weren't fighting for.......
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Posts: 11829
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:03 pm
Akhenaten Akhenaten: I don't think by 'mandatory' they mean you'll get a ticket for not doing it. I believe they're talking about employers trying to get people to work at that time etc. A law might be overboard for all people but I think employers shouldn't be allowed to corrupt the day. What you talking about? You get the whole day off with pay. Oh right, yeah. So you don't announce a Blue Light Special at exactly 11:00....
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Posts: 21611
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:08 am
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Posts: 3230
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:52 am
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada: I don't support such an idea as this, just like I don't think you should be forced to stand for O Canada.
They died for freedom - Getting peopel to realize that won't be solved with Anti-Free measures. Shut up A-hole, isn't this a school night?
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Posts: 3230
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:55 am
herbie herbie: Akhenaten Akhenaten: I don't think by 'mandatory' they mean you'll get a ticket for not doing it. I believe they're talking about employers trying to get people to work at that time etc. A law might be overboard for all people but I think employers shouldn't be allowed to corrupt the day. What you talking about? You get the whole day off with pay. Oh right, yeah. So you don't announce a Blue Light Special at exactly 11:00.... Jealous? Yep nothing but good times "money for nothing and the chicks for free" in the service Herbie. Get a grip
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Posts: 7580
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:02 am
Respect is a learned behaviour. In my house ( coming from a military family) my kids were taught to have respect for their elders, the military etc. But just respect for other people. And I am proud to say all of them, even now are teaching their children. We as a family will go to the cemetery tomorrow to visit the graves of my father, grandfather, nephew ( who was killed in Afghanistan) to place the Canadian and Québec flags on their graves and yes have 2 or more minutes of silence. We have done this ever since my kids were old enough to walk. I for one will never forget their sacrifice and neither will my grandchildren, I will see to it.
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Posts: 3230
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:10 am
kenmore kenmore: Respect is a learned behaviour. In my house ( coming from a military family) my kids were taught to have respect for their elders, the military etc. But just respect for other people. And I am proud to say all of them, even now are teaching their children. We as a family will go to the cemetery tomorrow to visit the graves of my father, grandfather, nephew ( who was killed in Afghanistan) to place the Canadian and Québec flags on their graves and yes have 2 or more minutes of silence. We have done this ever since my kids were old enough to walk. I for one will never forget their sacrifice and neither will my grandchildren, I will see to it. Refreshing
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:24 am
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Posts: 3230
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:40 am
Does your principal let you kids use such language? Shocking what is happening with todays children
Uber Canuck? You don't believe in respecting this countries anthem?? Unacceptable, That should be stripped away with out hesitation.
Hey found this pic of you and your buddies, props though, you are standing up
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