[martin14]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Just my $.02 but if you folks put an end to the monarchy in Canada it may well get the ball rolling with various factions to just put an end to Canada in its entirety.

true enough but considering it would need all provinces to agree,
thrown in a few referendums, and be very controversial
as to what to replace it with, I'm not holding my breath.

[raydan]

The United Provinces of Canada sounds good.

We'll just have to fight it out with "Universal Product Code" for the initials.

[coltsrmint2]

How about USA North, the other 11 states most Americans (not including the ones on here ) cannot name.....

[BartSimpson]

raydan raydan:

The United Provinces of Canada sounds good.

We'll just have to fight it out with "Universal Product Code" for the initials.

Since the Queen would no longer be your queen you'd no longer be 'provinces' of the British Empire. There'd be no reason to keep a name that acknowledges your status as the outlying fringes of a one-time world power.

[EyeBrock]

coltsrmint2 coltsrmint2:

I heard the Prince got his H1N1 vacine and didn't have to wait in line. I think that is bull crap, even when he will be King soon.......

Him and the Calgary Flames then.

[EyeBrock]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

raydan raydan:

The United Provinces of Canada sounds good.

We'll just have to fight it out with "Universal Product Code" for the initials.

Since the Queen would no longer be your queen you'd no longer be 'provinces' of the British Empire. There'd be no reason to keep a name that acknowledges your status as the outlying fringes of a one-time world power.

Sack the Queen and join the US then?

[KorbenDeck]

Correct me if I am wrong but removing the monarchy would require a constitutional amendment. Which is a tricky business in itself, but I would bet that when Canada does attempted an amendment every province and political group/party will want their own amendments attached as well.

$1:

In the case of an amendment related to the Office of the Queen, the number of senators, the use of either official language (subject to section 43), the amending formula, or the composition of the Supreme Court, the amendment must be adopted by unanimous consent of all the provinces in accordance with section 41.

I cannot see every province giving its consent to the amendment, especially Quebec since they still haven't endorsed the constitution. Nor can I see Quebec supporting something they know they could never control. Nor to I believe that NL, NB or NS would support it. Alberta may also see it as another attack on Canadian tradition and culture, as would many social conservatives.

Also removing the queen removes the protection Canadians get internationally. Little known fact but any Canadian overseas in need of assistant can go to a British embassy if they are unable to get to a Canadian embassy. Same goes in terms of evacuations, if a war broke out some place and the British had troops there helping their citizens those troops must help Canadians as well.

[kenmore]

Why wait to cut the ties... do it now!

[kenmore]

gonavy47 gonavy47:

I think that support for the monarchy, is a lot bigger than their poll suggests. It's easy to manipulate polls.

Right you are.. just ask the torys

[PluggyRug]

kenmore kenmore:

Why wait to cut the ties... do it now!

Long Live the Queen, lets have another 100 years war.

[herbie]

Why wait?
Because the bulk of us swore an oath to the Queen, and she has done nothing to warrant being usurped. Can you even think of a single thing she's ever done that wasn't right and proper? Waiting is the least we can do.

Why not a Republic?
To avoid instituting someone with a position of power, we don't want a President. We're not throwing anyone out. We're simply evolving, there is no need (yet) of a system of checks and balances that handicaps Parliament's ability.
The Generalissimo Trudeau remark was total bullshit. The people gave him mandate after mandate, and the whiners in Alta over the NEP forget that no one else in Canada wanted to pay double for gas at the time. They'd just thrown out Joe Clark over a minor gas increase! Use Mulroney and the GST debacle as an example. Then don't forget to include the fact no one else was dumb enough to get rid of the GST. So we had our democratic chances.

Who would you swear oaths to?
To your country, on the rare occasion you swear an oath.

It would require a Constitutional Amendment.
Probably. One that's a slam dunk! Are the people of Quebec going to demand a veto to keep the Monarchy? It could be done in one meeting with one stroke of a pen. Because in my scenario, we're not getting rid of the Monarchy only formally absolving it of the right to claim any power over Canada. Staying IN the Commonwealth and retaining the GG as representative OF Canada to Buckingham Palace. References to "The Crown" do not have to be removed from lawbooks. They merely point to the GG instead, who becomes a sort of Made In Canada Mini-Monarch who is democratically elected, to a fixed term, and can only act within current powers. Signing off Bills, final advisor to the PM and Parliament, hand-shaker to the world.

This I propose as a civilized process of Canada's democratic evolution. One that recognizes the historical contribution, including securing our very existence, of the Monarchy and our British Heritage. We move on in a proper manner, without slapping the Monarch in the face.

And for Bart: We are Provinces of Canada, not of the Crown. To even see this as a step towards the dissolution of Canada is bizarre. This would strengthen the national resolve and identity.

[commanderkai]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

raydan raydan:

The United Provinces of Canada sounds good.

We'll just have to fight it out with "Universal Product Code" for the initials.

Since the Queen would no longer be your queen you'd no longer be 'provinces' of the British Empire. There'd be no reason to keep a name that acknowledges your status as the outlying fringes of a one-time world power.

Well, technically provinces still does work. The US has it wrong with the "states" concept, because states are commonly seen as independent bodies (which is why you were the United States of America, aka a coalition, only after did you guys establish a Federal government did this change)