[martin14]

Yogi Yogi:

NAME! You get their names???

well, she wasnt bad.. til she gagged



anyway, Lemmy is right, we already have laws on the books,
just need some cops with balls to enforce them,
and some courts to actually do something.

[Lemmy]

Yogi Yogi:

NAME! You get their names???

He posed the question at a more appropriate time.

[acidcomplex]

Yogi Yogi:

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

stupidest rule ever, better take out radios,passengers,crying babies, signs on the side of the roads, big electronic signs, contruction.....alll distractions

Your post leaves me with the impression that you think that you are capable of safely operating a motor vehicle in traffic or highway speeds while texting???
After only 38 years of driving( no at-fault accidents) I still have not mastered such a skill. Perhaps you could offer myself and others training in such activities!

I dont think, i know, after 11 years of driving with no accidents and talking on my cell all that time I know. Just because some cant drive with cellphones doesn't mean all cant, and Im saying if you are going to make some bullshit rule about cells you had also better remove all other distracting elements cause that's what the whole cell law is based on..distraction

[wildrosegirl]

Lemmy Lemmy:

Yogi Yogi:

NAME! You get their names???

He posed the question at a more appropriate time.

You guys are awful.












But funnier'n hell!

[Yogi]

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

Yogi Yogi:

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

stupidest rule ever, better take out radios,passengers,crying babies, signs on the side of the roads, big electronic signs, contruction.....alll distractions

Your post leaves me with the impression that you think that you are capable of safely operating a motor vehicle in traffic or highway speeds while texting???
After only 38 years of driving( no at-fault accidents) I still have not mastered such a skill. Perhaps you could offer myself and others training in such activities!

I dont think, i know, after 11 years of driving with no accidents and talking on my cell all that time I know. Just because some cant drive with cellphones doesn't mean all cant, and Im saying if you are going to make some bullshit rule about cells you had also better remove all other distracting elements cause that's what the whole cell law is based on..distraction

The appropriate response to this post...

[wildrosegirl]

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

I dont think, i know, after 11 years of driving with no accidents and talking on my cell all that time I know. Just because some cant drive with cellphones doesn't mean all cant, and Im saying if you are going to make some bullshit rule about cells you had also better remove all other distracting elements cause that's what the whole cell law is based on..distraction

You can't mean that seriously.

[Brenda]

I can see his point. What is it based upon? The fact that you are talking? The fact that you don't have 2 hands on the wheel? Either is bs.

You are talking to your passengers, singing with the radio, giving your kids shit...
And, I NEVER drive with 2 hands on the wheel. If you drive a stick, you just don't.

[acidcomplex]

wildrosegirl wildrosegirl:

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

I dont think, i know, after 11 years of driving with no accidents and talking on my cell all that time I know. Just because some cant drive with cellphones doesn't mean all cant, and Im saying if you are going to make some bullshit rule about cells you had also better remove all other distracting elements cause that's what the whole cell law is based on..distraction

You can't mean that seriously.

dead serious what is your issue with that post?

[acidcomplex]

Brenda Brenda:

I can see his point. What is it based upon? The fact that you are talking? The fact that you don't have 2 hands on the wheel? Either is bs.

You are talking to your passengers, singing with the radio, giving your kids shit...
And, I NEVER drive with 2 hands on the wheel. If you drive a stick, you just don't.

agreed, my points exactly

[Yogi]

Print Email BookmarkTalking Distractions: Why Cell Phones And Driving Don't Mix
ScienceDaily (June 1, 2008) — The notion that talking on a cell phone while driving a car isn’t safe seems obvious, yet what happens in the brain while it juggles the two tasks is not.


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A study by a University of South Carolina psychology researcher featured in the journal, Experimental Psychology, provides a better understanding of why language – talking and listening, including on a cell phone – interferes with visual tasks, such as driving.

In two different experiments, associate professor of psychology Dr. Amit Almor found that planning to speak and speaking put far more demands on the brain’s resources than listening.

“We measured their attention level and found that subjects were four times more distracted while preparing to speak or speaking than when they were listening,” said Almor of the 47 people who participated in the experiment. “People can tune in or out as needed when listening.”

One experiment required participants to detect visual shapes on a monitor, and a second experiment required participants to use a computer mouse to track a fast-moving target on the screen. In both experiments, participants performed the visual task while listening to prerecorded narratives and responding to the narratives.

Almor calls the finding “very strong” and expects it to be even stronger in actual, interactive conversation. He and Tim Boiteau, a graduate student in linguistics, have repeated the experiment using 20 pairs of friends who engaged in real conversation while completing visual tasks. Those results are being compiled this summer.

“I anticipate the effect to be even stronger and more dynamic because, in conversation, people have the urge to contribute,” said Almor. “In conversation, we compete with the other person. I suspect that the greater the urge to speak, the greater the distraction from the visual task.”

In both experiments, Almor placed the participants in a circular, surround-sound environment in which the speakers were hidden and the voice shifted from the front, rear or either side.

Almor found that participants could complete the visual task in front of them more easily when the projected voice also was in front. This effect, while not so strong as the difference between preparing to speak or speaking and listening, suggests that simultaneously performing a language task and a visual task is easier when the tasks are in the same space physically and cognitively.

“Either people are used to face-to-face communication or, when they engage in a language task, they create a mental representation in their mind and place the voice somewhere in space,” Almor said. “In this case, that space is in front of them, which suggests that it may be easier to have all things that require attention occupy the same space.”

The finding may be useful in the development of new technologies, said Almor. In the case of a car, an internal speaker phone could project a speaker’s voice from the front so that it occupies the same place as the visual task of driving. The same could be applied in remote classroom instruction, in PowerPoint presentations and in military and pilot training.

Almor’s findings are particularly relevant in light of recent statistics.

The National Highway Traffic and Safety Administration (NHTSA) reported in April that 25 percent of all car accidents are caused by distractions. A survey done by Nationwide Mutual Insurance in 2007 indicated that 73 percent of drivers talk on cell phones while driving. Given that cell-phone sales have vaulted to 254 million in February 2008 up from (4.3 million in 1990), according to the Cellular Telecommunications & Internet Association, there is good reason for researchers to study the brain and how talking and listening on a cell phone interferes with driving a car.

http://www.car-accidents.com/car-accident-causes.html

[Brenda]

$1:

The National Highway Traffic and Safety Administration (NHTSA) reported in April that 25 percent of all car accidents are caused by distractions. A survey done by Nationwide Mutual Insurance in 2007 indicated that 73 percent of drivers talk on cell phones while driving. Given that cell-phone sales have vaulted to 254 million in February 2008 up from (4.3 million in 1990), according to the Cellular Telecommunications & Internet Association, there is good reason for researchers to study the brain and how talking and listening on a cell phone interferes with driving a car.

First of all, I think personally, that 90% of all car accidents are caused by distraction, and 10% would be due to mechanical failure (just my opinion, no stats).
What causes the distraction is not stated. Could be talking (to a passenger, cellphone, yourself...), could be a moron who does 60 instead of 80, and you were doing your radio, so you didn't notice in time, or you were speeding and lost control of the car...
Blaming it all on a cellphone is imo bogus.

I don't disagree with hands free communication, btw, that is a whole other ballgame. BUT, as this study says, using a cellphone is just as distractive as talking to a passenger.

[acidcomplex]

$1:

Almor calls the finding “very strong” and expects it to be even stronger in actual, interactive conversation. He and Tim Boiteau, a graduate student in linguistics, have repeated the experiment using 20 pairs of friends who engaged in real conversation while completing visual tasks. Those results are being compiled this summer.

And the result would be where?

$1:

“I anticipate the effect to be even stronger and more dynamic because, in conversation, people have the urge to contribute,” said Almor. “In conversation, we compete with the other person. I suspect that the greater the urge to speak, the greater the distraction from the visual task.”

thank you for proving my point, so its not just cellphones that increase chance of crashing its the act of talking and listening, hmmm like you would "listen" to the raido, which brings me back to my main point "get rid of everything or nothing". This "cell hpones are to blame" nonsense is just that. Nonsense

[Yogi]

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

$1:

Almor calls the finding “very strong” and expects it to be even stronger in actual, interactive conversation. He and Tim Boiteau, a graduate student in linguistics, have repeated the experiment using 20 pairs of friends who engaged in real conversation while completing visual tasks. Those results are being compiled this summer.

And the result would be where?

$1:

“I anticipate the effect to be even stronger and more dynamic because, in conversation, people have the urge to contribute,” said Almor. “In conversation, we compete with the other person. I suspect that the greater the urge to speak, the greater the distraction from the visual task.”

thank you for proving my point, so its not just cellphones that increase chance of crashing its the act of talking and listening, hmmm like you would "listen" to the raido, which brings me back to my main point "get rid of everything or nothing". This "cell hpones are to blame" nonsense is just that. Nonsense

Is this ( and the hundreds others just like it) 'nonsense' too???

This accident happened on September 28th, 2005 in Riverview FL. A careless driver on a cell phone blazed through a red light at 55 mph and struck my mom's drivers door as she was going 20 mph attempting to make a left turn towards home. Her car was pushed 40 feet and my mom's neck was broken in 2 places. She died instantly. As her daughter, and someone that had to go to the scene to identify her, I can't tell you enough-

[martin14]

Yogi Yogi:

A study .....

very nice post Yogi.


So my Bluetooth radio cancels anything on the radio or CD,
pipes the voices thru my front speakers, and has a mike
sitting on the steering column.


Does that mean I pass ?



Doesn't it also mean that I can tell any passengers to STFU,
cause they aren't sitting in front of me ?

I can see it now, car passengers have to be gagged with a
special gov't issued cloth, so as not to distract the driver..


Methinks the gov't is just looking for some cash here.

[Yogi]

We will never be able to eliminate all driver-distractions, but I can't wrap my head around the thinking 'if we can't eliminate all distractions, we shouldn't eliminate any!

Certainly there are many other causes of injurious/fatal accidents. The very fact that it is within our grasp to cut down on some of them, with no more than minor inconvenience to some drivers speaks for itself!