[herbie]

How dare the Senators do their job!!!
They should just obey!!!

That's all anyone needs to do. What they're TOLD. And then the trains will run on time.

[gonavy47]

herbie herbie:

How dare the Senators do their job!!!
They should just obey!!!

That's all anyone needs to do. What they're TOLD. And then the trains will run on time.

When they are an elected body, then they have a job, not an appointment.

[herbie]

$1:

When they are an elected body, then they have a job, not an appointment.

So until then, what I said? How dare they get uppity and serve the Constitution rather than their massuh?
Somewhere along the line someone has to think this shit through with their brain instead of with their guts & knees or with their all-consuming desire to NOT call an election. That's not gonna come from Parliament.

[OnTheIce]

herbie herbie:

$1:

When they are an elected body, then they have a job, not an appointment.

So until then, what I said? How dare they get uppity and serve the Constitution rather than their massuh?
Somewhere along the line someone has to think this shit through with their brain instead of with their guts & knees or with their all-consuming desire to NOT call an election. That's not gonna come from Parliament.

Serve the Constitution? What a crock.

The only thing they're serving is their own partisan needs. Tinkering with crime bills has little to do with anything but.

[DrRosen]

We should be discussing what the changes are, not that they made changes. If the changes are positive that's a good thing isnt it?

[bootlegga]

ridenrain ridenrain:

So when the Liberal party can't be soft on crime, we can trust the Liberal appointed senators to look out for crminals rights.

Maybe Harper should have appointed more of his cronies in August if he wanted the Senate to rubber stamp everything he sends their way...

[ridenrain]

Maybe the Liberal dominated senate should listen to their party leader and approve of the bill that he himself approved of.

[bootlegga]

DrRosen DrRosen:

We should be discussing what the changes are, not that they made changes. If the changes are positive that's a good thing isnt it?

If you want a reasonable look at the changes, see Eyebrock's post on the first page. It's a good example of clear, unpartisan thinking on the issue at hand.

[EyeBrock]

bootlegga bootlegga:

DrRosen DrRosen:

We should be discussing what the changes are, not that they made changes. If the changes are positive that's a good thing isnt it?

If you want a reasonable look at the changes, see Eyebrock's post on the first page. It's a good example of clear, unpartisan thinking on the issue at hand.

Thanks Boots, give me a hug mate!

[bootlegga]

[gonavy47]

While you two are being intimate, the fact remains that the liberal-dominated senate, is continuing to be soft on crime. Which is the past liberal governments' legacy to the people of Canada, a judiciary that is more concerned with the rights of criminals, than their victims. Three cheers...

[DerbyX]

Dominated?

Liberal: 46
Conservative: 52
PC caucus: 2
IND: 4
Vacant: 1

That's pretty damn even. In fact if they managed to swing both the PCs and INDs to their cause the vote would be even.

[DerbyX]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_Stan ... ian_Senate

Appointment breakdown

* Thirty-four current senators were appointed on the advice of Prime Minister Jean Chretien (Liberal, 1993-2003)
* Twenty-eight current senators have been appointed on the advice of Prime Minister Stephen Harper (Conservative, 2006-)
* Seventeen current senators were appointed on the advice of Prime Minister Brian Mulroney (Progressive Conservative, 1984-1993)
* Sixteen current senators were appointed on the advice of Prime Minister Paul Martin (Liberal, 2003-2006)
* Eight current senators were appointed on the advice of Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau (Liberal, 1968-1979, 1980-1984)
* One current senator was appointed on the advice of Prime Minister Joe Clark (Progressive Conservative, 1979-1980)

[gonavy47]

DerbyX DerbyX:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_Standings_in_the_Canadian_Senate

Appointment breakdown

* Thirty-four current senators were appointed on the advice of Prime Minister Jean Chretien (Liberal, 1993-2003)
* Twenty-eight current senators have been appointed on the advice of Prime Minister Stephen Harper (Conservative, 2006-)
* Seventeen current senators were appointed on the advice of Prime Minister Brian Mulroney (Progressive Conservative, 1984-1993)
* Sixteen current senators were appointed on the advice of Prime Minister Paul Martin (Liberal, 2003-2006)
* Eight current senators were appointed on the advice of Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau (Liberal, 1968-1979, 1980-1984)
* One current senator was appointed on the advice of Prime Minister Joe Clark (Progressive Conservative, 1979-1980)

By your own figures that's 58 liberal appointees vs. 46 conservative. That's a difference of twelve. Provided that all the old folks actually leave their beds to go and vote, that's a liberal majority.

[DerbyX]

Except you are forgetting ones that were kicked out of the caucus or while appointed by the Liberals aren't members of the Liberal party or affiliated with it.

I posted the current make-up of the senate.