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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:09 am
Where does it say he will travel outside of the wire? $1: He is being deployed to Afghanistan in November to serve as a staff officer at the Kandahar Airfield headquarters.
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:23 am
Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes: Where does it say he will travel outside of the wire? $1: He is being deployed to Afghanistan in November to serve as a staff officer at the Kandahar Airfield headquarters.
I stand corrected I guess, he's just like the rest of them I suppose. No one special here, happy ?
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:21 pm
I had a joint replaced and that was difficult enough. But to lose a leg, and two comrades, and then go back! That is extraordinary. Guy Fawkes, give your head a shake!
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:16 pm
Bodah Bodah: Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes: Where does it say he will travel outside of the wire? $1: He is being deployed to Afghanistan in November to serve as a staff officer at the Kandahar Airfield headquarters.
I stand corrected I guess, he's just like the rest of them I suppose. No one special here, happy ? Not really just correct, Im somewhat tired of people getting fanfare for doing their damn job. Ya its awesome that he stayed in and decided to go back, he gets a cookie, but in order for him to have the title of soldier it is expected of him. Nothing extraordinary here. gonavy47 gonavy47: I had a joint replaced and that was difficult enough. But to lose a leg, and two comrades, and then go back! That is extraordinary. Guy Fawkes, give your head a shake!
All that tells me is that he lost a limb and decided not to puss out, that means he is a soldier nothing more. I wouldn’t think less of him if he decided not to go back, but I wouldn’t be able to call him a soldier anymore would I? This is something a lot of people don’t get. When someone is a soldier they are not some super hero or some uber-person. They are just someone who decided to take on a difficult job. Which means more is expected of him, in return he has the honor to fight for his country, something not everyone can do. To praise someone for doing their fucking job lessens the rest of us. So please, applaud him not for being the poor guy who got his leg blown off and going to work, applaud him because he is representing you and Canada. He is doing the best he can for his country, something every soldier does. He is not special he is just a soldier.
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:03 pm
Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes: Bodah Bodah: I stand corrected I guess, he's just like the rest of them I suppose. No one special here, happy ? Not really just correct, Im somewhat tired of people getting fanfare for doing their damn job. Ya its awesome that he stayed in and decided to go back, he gets a cookie, but in order for him to have the title of soldier it is expected of him. Nothing extraordinary here. Whats your damn job then ? Any duties entailing the possibility of dying ?
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:32 pm
How does it lessen us to praise someone for going through monumental adversity to do his job. His job was done, he didn't think it was. He was going back no matter what. I think he is a little bit more than "just a soldier". I respect all those who serve their country, and I also can recognize someone who goes above and beyond the call of duty. Apparently, Guy Fawkes, you can't., and I feel sorry for you.
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:49 pm
Bodah Bodah: Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes: Bodah Bodah: I stand corrected I guess, he's just like the rest of them I suppose. No one special here, happy ? Not really just correct, Im somewhat tired of people getting fanfare for doing their damn job. Ya its awesome that he stayed in and decided to go back, he gets a cookie, but in order for him to have the title of soldier it is expected of him. Nothing extraordinary here. Whats your damn job then ? Any duties entailing the possibility of dying ? Yes gonavy47 gonavy47: How does it lessen us to praise someone for going through monumental adversity to do his job. His job was done, he didn't think it was. He was going back no matter what. I think he is a little bit more than "just a soldier". I respect all those who serve their country, and I also can recognize someone who goes above and beyond the call of duty. Apparently, Guy Fawkes, you can't., and I feel sorry for you.
Is he a soldier, is he going overseas? Would you want have a party for every soldier who did another tour? Please dont answer that, Im sure you think its a miracle that guys do consecutive tours. He didnt go above and beyond, he did his job. Im not going to praise someone for doing their job.
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:07 pm
If you want to be in the club called the Canadian Military, there are several things you have to do. Going to war when needed is one of them. If he was not deployable he is not employable. PEN alluded to a point where guys (I wont call them soldiers) dodge and avoid tours, those are not soldiers. They are merely people who work in the CF and parade once and a while. A real soldier does all he can for his country and military. This man was merely doing that. He is not a disabled amputee he is a soldier, doing his damn job. To say that he is some how more than that takes away from what it means to be a soldier IMO.
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:44 pm
Maybe some day, Guy Fawkes, when you are older, you will get what I'm trying to say. Unfortunately, right now, you don't. Oh, well, I tried.
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:12 am
Very Cool story....about time we had some good stories coming about ![Drink up [B-o]](./images/smilies/drinkup.gif)
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:29 am
Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes: If you want to be in the club called the Canadian Military, there are several things you have to do. Going to war when needed is one of them. If he was not deployable he is not employable. PEN alluded to a point where guys (I wont call them soldiers) dodge and avoid tours, those are not soldiers. They are merely people who work in the CF and parade once and a while. A real soldier does all he can for his country and military. This man was merely doing that. He is not a disabled amputee he is a soldier, doing his damn job. To say that he is some how more than that takes away from what it means to be a soldier IMO. I know were just dumb ass civies but its kind of bizzare to see you shit all over our comments about him. Considering the canadian public division on our deployment in Afghanistan I thought you military people needed our positive support once and awhile, guess not.
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:02 am
Bodah Bodah: Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes: If you want to be in the club called the Canadian Military, there are several things you have to do. Going to war when needed is one of them. If he was not deployable he is not employable. PEN alluded to a point where guys (I wont call them soldiers) dodge and avoid tours, those are not soldiers. They are merely people who work in the CF and parade once and a while. A real soldier does all he can for his country and military. This man was merely doing that. He is not a disabled amputee he is a soldier, doing his damn job. To say that he is some how more than that takes away from what it means to be a soldier IMO. I know were just dumb ass civies but its kind of bizzare to see you shit all over our comments about him. Considering the canadian public division on our deployment in Afghanistan I thought you military people needed our positive support once and awhile, guess not. Not all of us on this site are "civies". Some of us have served or are serving.
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:28 am
I don't know of too many damn people in any job that return to their job after losing a leg, let alone one as exacting as the military in a combat area. Getting your leg blown off and returning to active duty is not just a day in the life of even a 'soldier'. Those that survived injuries like this were almost always sent home during all of Canada's previous conflicts.
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:20 am
Bodah Bodah: Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes: If you want to be in the club called the Canadian Military, there are several things you have to do. Going to war when needed is one of them. If he was not deployable he is not employable. PEN alluded to a point where guys (I wont call them soldiers) dodge and avoid tours, those are not soldiers. They are merely people who work in the CF and parade once and a while. A real soldier does all he can for his country and military. This man was merely doing that. He is not a disabled amputee he is a soldier, doing his damn job. To say that he is some how more than that takes away from what it means to be a soldier IMO. I know were just dumb ass civies but its kind of bizzare to see you shit all over our comments about him. Considering the canadian public division on our deployment in Afghanistan I thought you military people needed our positive support once and awhile, guess not. Who is shitting on him? I said it impressive that he went back, but it's not amazing.
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:27 am
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: I don't know of too many damn people in any job that return to their job after losing a leg, let alone one as exacting as the military in a combat area. Getting your leg blown off and returning to active duty is not just a day in the life of even a 'soldier'. Those that survived injuries like this were almost always sent home during all of Canada's previous conflicts. They did send him home, and he went through rehab, then they asked "If you’re up to it, do you still want to stay in the CF?" his reply was most likely "Sure." The reason that they didnt send amputees before was not because of the amputee, it was because of the CF standing policy. The CF changed policy, so he is able to go.
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