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[Proculation]

ridenrain ridenrain:

The lefties were the ones who always were the protestors so it's a tactic to minimize the size of the right's protests.

How many showed up when Van Jones stepped down?
How about for ACORN?

How many?

Obviously enough.

I agree. Protesting is not something reserved to the left.

[N_Fiddledog]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

xerxes xerxes:

LOVE IT.

Hello, photographic fantasy of wishful thinking. Meet reality.

[Newfy]

I just don't understand how so many Americans can be so scared of a national health care service. Of course the ones protesting can probably afford to pay their medical bills. I know no one likes to pay more tax but sureley a tax which will give free healthcare to all is a small price to pay. The British NHS may not be perfect but it is still very good.

And if they're that worried about getting the level of care they want they can still go private as we here in Britain can still do if you can afford it.

The fact that they're comparing Obamas' ideas to Socialism, Nazis and Communism is just laughable. They obviously skipped history in school. Same old, scared of the unkown, syndrome. Makes me think of the attitudes of some during the Cold War.

[Guy_Fawkes]

It's because some Americans feel that you should have to fight and work for everything, and if they dont want to help other people out or give out charity they shouldn’t have to.

[Guy_Fawkes]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

xerxes xerxes:

LOVE IT.

Hello, photographic fantasy of wishful thinking. Meet reality.

How can we tell this really is the 9-12 event? I cant find any real evidence of the attendance.

I did find this from a blogger, but I wouldnt call it accurate by any means. That is unless someone could back it up for me.

[Newfy]

Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:

It's because some Americans feel that you should have to fight and work for everything, and if they dont want to help other people out or give out charity they shouldn’t have to.

Even more funny as i'm sure there are millions of Americans who have worked very hard most of their lives but would still struggle to pay for treatment for things like cancer.

When my squadron was in Arizona on Exercise, one of the guys was admitted to hospital with suspected food poisoning. He was covered by the army but has still received several letters from the hospital demanding settlement of over $2000 and have threatened action from debt collectors.

[Guy_Fawkes]

Sounds about right, when I talk to Americans who are against public funded healthcare I ask them "So if a woman cant afford to give birth in a hospital should she abort?" that usualy ends the conversation.

[Lemmy]

Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:

It's because some Americans feel that you should have to fight and work for everything, and if they dont want to help other people out or give out charity they shouldn’t have to.

I think you're partly correct about some American sentiment. But anyone that equates univeral healthcare with charity is delusional. Universal Health care is more like Fire Departments or EMS or Policing. You don't always need it and you hope you never do, but everyone pays for it in case you do have to use it. Surely even the Yanks don't see Policing being a charity payment to those that use the service more than others? I believe Americans are finally realizing the dead-weight economic loss of Health Insurance companies, that scrape a third of all health care dollars away from service to line their pockets. The current American system is father abstracted from a free market than the Canadian system of health care.

[Guy_Fawkes]

I think a part of America might be delusional though, hehe at least 2 million of them in the DC area are.

[fifeboy]

xerxes xerxes:

That doesn't look even close to 2 million. Even people who were there say only in the tens of thousands tops:

Well, the article did say "UP TO" two million

Actually, I was at the '69 anti-Vietnam protest in Washington. The biggest claim for that was 500 000 and that was an exaggerating. That looked like a sea of humanity stretching out forever. Ha, 2 million!

[N_Fiddledog]

Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:

How can we tell this really is the 9-12 event? I cant find any real evidence of the attendance.

Yeah, the left versus right argument on that particular vid is fun. The left appears to believe any turnout that large could only be for a leftist event. They therefore conclude what's portrayed on that vid must have been for something like the Kennedy funeral procession. As evidence they point to this...



The flag is at half mast.

The right responds as follows.

$1:

Newsflash for the clueless: Flags were still at half-mast earlier today in honor of the murder victims of the 9/11 jihadi attacks.

http://michellemalkin.com/

But you're right there does not appear to be any kind of consensus estimate of the crowd size. There was an alleged early estimate by ABC of 2 million. It's also alleged that estimate was quickly taken down by ABC. ABC then found some anonymous officials to estimate the crowd size between 60 and 75 thousand. MSNBC was referring to the crowd as "massive", and gave at least one personal estimate of "hundreds of thousands".

At present there is no universally accepted mainstream estimate of crowd size. However...pics of the event continue to pop up.

[DerbyX]

http://www.osborneink.com/2009/09/teabaggers-lie.html

Apparently that "livecam" shot isn't correct.

[N_Fiddledog]

DerbyX DerbyX:

http://www.osborneink.com/2009/09/teabaggers-lie.html

Apparently that "livecam" shot isn't correct.

So basically Derby your blogger is telling us we shouldn't accept the video as authentic. We should however accept his un-time-stamped pic as authentic. Or am I wrong? Did I miss something. I went to his link. I can't find the time and date. Do you have a time-stamped pic?

I'm not officially doubting you, or your blogger at this point. I just really want to know who the facts actually support here.

http://www.trafficland.com/city/WAS/cam ... index.html

Edit

Oh wait a minute now. Both the video, and your blogger's pic could be correct. The video is supposed to be time lapsed between 8:00 and 11:30 AM. Your blogger's pic is supposed to be for 3:30 PM.