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ridenrain
CKA Uber
Posts: 22594
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:33 pm
Ok... the real reason is because Dion was abstained a record 43 times and Iggy is carrying on that fine tradition. All that tough talk and double secret probation has all been nothing more than a sad and hollow bluff.
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Posts: 8738
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:46 pm
Robair Robair: I just spent half a minute trying to squish Praxius' signature.  I went and got eye drops. 
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Posts: 15681
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:05 pm
It always makes me laugh when the wankers in the media say " Canada has voted to keep the Conservatives on probation by giving them a minority government."
Like the voters are the Borg or summat. The Tories got a minority because they didn't win enough seats to get a majority, endex.
Another election will mean another minority government, be it CPC or Lib. As long as we have a provincial party in the second most populated province allowed to contest seats in federal elections only in that province, we will continue to have 10% of the 'national' vote wasted on seperatists interested in only one province.
Really, what is the difference policy wise between the CPC and Lib leaders? Riden and I will vote Tory and Boots and Derby will vote Lib. The reluctant Canadians will vote Bloc and we'll be back in a minority.
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poquas
Forum Super Elite
Posts: 2245
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:10 pm
I know of 16 votes that went Tory last time that won't go that way again.
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:29 pm
Geesus Murphy Iggy is slipping again! another couple of weeks and he'll be in Dion territory http://ca.reuters.com/article/domesticN ... C020090820"The Ekos poll for the Canadian Broadcasting Corp. put the Conservatives at 32.8 percent support, up from 32.7 percent last week. The Liberals were at 30.2 percent, down from 31.0 percent."
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Posts: 15681
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:53 pm
Yep, Iggy seems to have flamed out. The 'just visiting' thing has been very successful.
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OnTheIce 
CKA Uber
Posts: 10666
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:37 pm
bootlegga bootlegga: Dodge...who was the first PM in to ever prorogue Parliament?
P.S. That's why it's the "longest running minority", not because it's stable. And I'm happy he did. Liberals and NDP's alike didn't like the idea of the coalition. Even the current Liberal leader was willing to hold his nose for the chance at the top job. The entire reason for that happening was because the Liberals, NDP and the Bloc were threatened by the loss of their taxpayer handout that Harper was threatening to take away. Let's just skip the "it's all about the economy, they're not doing enough" BS we know it wasn't about.
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:59 pm
EyeBrock EyeBrock: It always makes me laugh when the wankers in the media say " Canada has voted to keep the Conservatives on probation by giving them a minority government."
Like the voters are the Borg or summat. The Tories got a minority because they didn't win enough seats to get a majority, endex.
Another election will mean another minority government, be it CPC or Lib. As long as we have a provincial party in the second most populated province allowed to contest seats in federal elections only in that province, we will continue to have 10% of the 'national' vote wasted on seperatists interested in only one province.
Really, what is the difference policy wise between the CPC and Lib leaders? Riden and I will vote Tory and Boots and Derby will vote Lib. The reluctant Canadians will vote Bloc and we'll be back in a minority. Brillian fucking post. To bad you forgot some of the socialists taking up about 1/5th the seats in house.
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Posts: 15681
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:24 pm
Yea, socialists are a waste, but at least they contest ridings in every province and territory.
The Bloc...why do we put up with this?
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OnTheIce 
CKA Uber
Posts: 10666
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:29 pm
EyeBrock EyeBrock: Yea, socialists are a waste, but at least they contest ridings in every province and territory.
The Bloc...why do we put up with this? Let's say Harper decided to pull funding from the Bloc, would Jack Layton also consider that a threat to democracy as he did when his handout was threatened?
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Posts: 15594
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:57 pm
EyeBrock EyeBrock: Yea, socialists are a waste, but at least they contest ridings in every province and territory.
The Bloc...why do we put up with this? Indeed. I've wondered in the elections that have included them, where the voters of Quebec would lean if the Bloc was not on the ballot. Any guesses?
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Frederick
Newbie
Posts: 17
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:10 pm
They're close, that's for sure. They've had almost four years for people to become familiar with them and to see that they did not, as some tried to claim they would, put soldiers with guns on our streets. Thus the boastfulness and the thought of a majority Conservative government might not have quite the same impact as it did in 2004.
That said, on what grounds do they plan to claim they they are worthy of a majority? I don' think many voters are going to be swayed by just a platform of "we ran the most successful minority." And I think campaigning on removing the vote subsidy will just remind people of the mess it made last time. I just don't see the potential for the growth they'll need to make a majority.
Ignatieff said in July he had some things cooking for August, but so far that only seems to have quelled the "where's Iggy" stories, and his polling isn't showing any positive results. But then he has managed to get the money coming back in, and he hasn't been spending much. He could be running a sort of 1-stop strategy, to borrow a phrase from F1.
The big question is how many Liberal voters can Iggy get back to the polls who just didn't show up in October, and how many can he get back from Layton and May. But by all means, the Conservatives should feel free to count their chickens.
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ridenrain
CKA Uber
Posts: 22594
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:54 pm
I can think of about 3 ridings in BC that won't stay Liberal.
Hedy Fry is leaving and I doubt her replacemment has any of her.. credability?
The Dose won by only a couple votes and he's done nothing but insult folks since.
.. and my fave, Liberal MP Sukh Dhaliwal who hardly won, has just come back from a $6,297, first class trip to Germany to study Strategic Transport Infrastructure Planning and Finance.. or something. Sounds to me like he's ready to take a job with BC rail.
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Posts: 11844
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:17 pm
And Dick Harris has been running around Nathan Cullen's riding handing out dollars so people know it's a Tory handout. Like $22 million so remote reserves can have FREE BROADBAND INTERNET ACCESS and FREE COMPUTERS FOREVER paid for with your tax dollars. Traditonal rights to BitTorrent and Facebook ya know. It's the rest of us shelling out among the highest rates in the world for it, or stuck with dialup cuz they live on a farm....
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ridenrain
CKA Uber
Posts: 22594
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:35 pm
Did you see this one: Sydney Garrioch, grand chief of Manitoba Keewatinowi Okimakanak is also running for the Libs in Churchill and for some reason, only Liberal events show up at band meetings. Strangely enough, this group also had donated over $16,000 to the federal Liberals between 1997 and 2004 and then in 2006, they received over $20 million from Ottawa for various programs. That included $1.55 million in support of the organization itself. Another "triumph of entrepenerialship". http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/53785957.html
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