[commanderkai]

xerxes xerxes:

Question: Are not groups like Operation Rescue, Christian in nature? Or is what Al Qaeda and Hezbollah dojust random nutjob-iness as welland not religiously motivated extremism? Because that's what Dr. Tiller's murder was; religiously motivated terrorism.

And I agree with you. It was religiously motivated terrorism. However, I don't believe in the moral relativism of Christian and Jewish terrorists=Islamic terrorists.

On top of this. The actions of this Operation Rescue group (using Wikipedia, since I really don't care to do research at 2:40 AM.)

"After the FACE (Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances)[4][5] bill was signed into law by then-president Bill Clinton, Operation Rescue West implemented new tactics that did not involve arrest, and was successful at closing nearly two dozen abortion clinics in Southern California over a ten-year period.[citation needed]

Operation Rescue operates a fleet of what it refers to as “Truth Trucks,” large panel vehicles that bear images of what the group claims to be aborted fetuses.[6] These “Truth Trucks” travel around the nation showing what Operation Rescue describes as “grisly truth about abortion.” Such images are often criticized as intentionally shocking and insensitive given how sensitive an issue abortion often is. The group claims to have contributed to a 16% drop in abortions in Kansas over a three year period, however this is not substantiated by any data."

Basically, sounds like the right wing PETA. Annoying as fuck, and irritating, but not illegal. Much like how PETA shows the Holocaust is like a meat packing plant. It's bullshit, and disgusting, but not illegal.

I looked up the site about the "Nuremburg Files" yet I don't see any connection with the guy with Operation Rescue. Any link would be nice. I'm getting another name, and the organization that runs the website seems to be based in Georgia, not Kansas.

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And you're right: 99.5% of Christians don't murder people in broad daylight in a church.

99.5%? Why so low? Wouldn't it be more like 99.999%, considering there have been, and I quote. "There have been 18 murders over the past 9 years in or at churches", including the more recent abortion doctor?

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chu_viol.htm

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But you don't hear about those ones. Rather, you hear about the ones who blow up abortion clinics and kill abortion providers, which is a great disservice to Christians everywhere.

And I agree with that. My problem is that these events will

1) Paint all Christians in a bad light

2) Will make it seem that blowing up abortion clinics and murdering abortionists is a daily occurance in the United States or elsewhere, which it is definately not the case.

[commanderkai]

sandorski sandorski:

WTF? Did you actually read what you're attempting to Defend?

What exactly am I defending? What the loonytoon did? No. I never said that. I'm tired of the generalizing that people do when shit like this happens.

[xerxes]

$1:

99.5%? Why so low? Wouldn't it be more like 99.999%, considering there have been, and I quote. "There have been 18 murders over the past 9 years in or at churches", including the more recent abortion doctor?

Well, I was factoring in the "god hates fags" inbreds and American Taleban types like Jerry Falwell (and yes I realise he's dead, I'm just saying), Pat Robertson, James Dobson et al.

[commanderkai]

xerxes xerxes:

$1:

99.5%? Why so low? Wouldn't it be more like 99.999%, considering there have been, and I quote. "There have been 18 murders over the past 9 years in or at churches", including the more recent abortion doctor?

Well, I was factoring in the "god hates fags" inbreds and American Taleban types like Jerry Falwell (and yes I realise he's dead, I'm just saying), Pat Robertson, James Dobson et al.

Ah okay, got it. If you're including them I'll give you that tally

Even then, those Westboro douchebags get on my nerves the most

[kenmore]

Religious beliefs have been the cause of many wars and thousand killed.. This was a cowardly act no matter what your thoughts on the subject.

[OldChum]

(Shit like this happens) since when doe,s murder just happen and it is okay suggest you get a less self centered approach to life yours

[xerxes]

commanderkai commanderkai:

xerxes xerxes:

$1:

99.5%? Why so low? Wouldn't it be more like 99.999%, considering there have been, and I quote. "There have been 18 murders over the past 9 years in or at churches", including the more recent abortion doctor?

Well, I was factoring in the "god hates fags" inbreds and American Taleban types like Jerry Falwell (and yes I realise he's dead, I'm just saying), Pat Robertson, James Dobson et al.

Ah okay, got it. If you're including them I'll give you that tally

Even then, those Westboro douchebags get on my nerves the most

Good, and I think your right about the Nuremburg Files thing. After doing a bit more searching, it would appear that my original info was incorrect.

[Scape]

Once a Pro-Lifer, She'll Soon Perform Abortions

To every action... a reaction.

[Proculation]

I'm pro-choice but I'm strictly against what Dr. Tiller did: late-term abortions on healthy feotus.

[DerbyX]

Scape Scape:

Once a Pro-Lifer, She'll Soon Perform Abortions

To every action... a reaction.

$1:

But I was stunned when one of my professors, a pathologist and a Planned Parenthood supporter, told me that decades ago, entire wings of the university's hospital were filled with women dying from infections caused by botched abortions. It's clear that women who don't want to be pregnant won't be deterred by limited access to providers or to clinics. And I believe that it's immoral to let them die rather than provide them with safe, competent care.

This is exactly right. Women deserve the right to medical care to avoid this regardless of what a bunch of religious nuts think.

[snookums]

Proculation Proculation:

I'm pro-choice but I'm strictly against what Dr. Tiller did: late-term abortions on healthy feotus.

I encourage you to read The Compassion of Dr. Tiller and A Heartbreaking Choice.

It might shed some light as to what Dr. Tiller was actually doing. It is not a black and white situation...

[Proculation]

That's why I said HEALTHY foetus. If the baby is sick, it's not the same thing. Even that... After 21 weeks, the foetus can still be viable and live.

[xerxes]

Thing is, the vast majority of late term abortions done (which is less than 1% of all abortions done) are done out of medical necessity as opposed to narcissistic or cosmetic reasons.

[Proculation]

xerxes xerxes:

Thing is, the vast majority of late term abortions done (which is less than 1% of all abortions done) are done out of medical necessity as opposed to narcissistic or cosmetic reasons.

And where did you see those numbers ? I have totally the opposite here.

[xerxes]

Proculation Proculation:

xerxes xerxes:

Thing is, the vast majority of late term abortions done (which is less than 1% of all abortions done) are done out of medical necessity as opposed to narcissistic or cosmetic reasons.

And where did you see those numbers ? I have totally the opposite here.

From an article in a magazine from a few years back. I can't get you a link as it's subscriber only, but if you're interested i can provide a citation...

But, I will retract my previous number. You're right in that regard. After reading the article again, the number I got should have wrote down was 12%. My bad.