[romanP]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

I don't see any threat to Canada, so whatever transpires (and I imagine it will be a lot of table pounding by Kim Jong Il and Obama), Canada should stay out of it. But this does provide yet more evidence as to why Canaeda should consider making itself a nuclear power.

I think this is exactly why Canada should remain free of nuclear weapons. Building more nuclear weapons for the world just increases the likelihood that someone will use them. I think we set a good example by steering clear of that mess.

[CommanderSock]

North Korea is a child kicking and screaming.

They got nuked now...so what? So do China and Russia. What is north Korea going to do with its nukes?

They certainly won't risk it all to nuke the south or Japan. Let them kick and scream, we should just ignore them.

[CommanderSock]

romanP romanP:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

I don't see any threat to Canada, so whatever transpires (and I imagine it will be a lot of table pounding by Kim Jong Il and Obama), Canada should stay out of it. But this does provide yet more evidence as to why Canaeda should consider making itself a nuclear power.

I think this is exactly why Canada should remain free of nuclear weapons. Building more nuclear weapons for the world just increases the likelihood that someone will use them. I think we set a good example by steering clear of that mess.

Agreed, if Canada does anything nuclear related, it should to build some sort of defence system against them.

[Proculation]

romanP romanP:

stemmer stemmer:

But it would make a point to Iran!!!! Unless you you want to comfront both North Korea and Iran in a few years....

Iran isn't enriching the right kind of uranium to build any nuclear weapons.

Enriched uranium is enriched uranium. There's not different "kind of uranium".

[herbie]

Fer fuck's sakes where's all the Diplomats gone the last 20 years. We need some Kissingers and Pearsons back in the spotlight.
Tell China to take the fuckers out, scoop all their nuclear shit and withdraw as South Korean police fill in and unify the country.
The USA sits on it's butt and promises to keep all of the former N Korea demilitarized forever,or maybe only Korean light armour.
Seoul gets to pay the whole cost of re-unification and sets up a Free Trade zone where China, Korea and Russia all meet. Build goddam Hyundais there and hire some Chinese & Russian techs or something.

[Lemmy]

We should be working on the phaser and the photon torpedo. Nukes in the 21st century will be like catapults were in the 20th.

[PluggyRug]

Lemmy Lemmy:

We should be working on the phaser and the photon torpedo. Nukes in the 21st century will be like catapults were in the 20th.

Captain Quirk's retired.

[romanP]

CommanderSock CommanderSock:

romanP romanP:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

I don't see any threat to Canada, so whatever transpires (and I imagine it will be a lot of table pounding by Kim Jong Il and Obama), Canada should stay out of it. But this does provide yet more evidence as to why Canaeda should consider making itself a nuclear power.

I think this is exactly why Canada should remain free of nuclear weapons. Building more nuclear weapons for the world just increases the likelihood that someone will use them. I think we set a good example by steering clear of that mess.

Agreed, if Canada does anything nuclear related, it should to build some sort of defence system against them.

When it comes to nuclear missiles, the best defense is making sure nobody fires any in the first place. Even if you manage to shoot down the correct missile (many delivery systems have multiple decoys), you run the very likely risk of nuclear contamination of a very large, possibly populated area.

[ridenrain]

China is the only thing keeping N.Korea alive right now and I'd say there's no secrets or illusions that China dosen't know about. If anything can be done, it will have to be with China's approval. S. Korea storming the border will be a big bloody mess.

[romanP]

Proculation Proculation:

romanP romanP:

stemmer stemmer:

But it would make a point to Iran!!!! Unless you you want to comfront both North Korea and Iran in a few years....

Iran isn't enriching the right kind of uranium to build any nuclear weapons.

Enriched uranium is enriched uranium. There's not different "kind of uranium".

That is entirely incorrect, sir! Uranium has to be enriched to a certain density in order to be weapons-grade. Iran does not have the technology to make weapons-grade uranium. The uranium that comes from the Chalk River reactor would not be suitable for nuclear weapons either.

Please refrain from discussing "kinds of uranium" until you know something about isotopes.

[Proculation]

eeeh yeah, sir! I think you misunderstood me. Enriched uranium is enriched uranium. I'm not talking about spent fuel but enriched uranium made in a uranium enrichement plants. Iran is able to enrich uranium (or will in the near future) to get enough fissible U-235 for it to be weapon grade. Please, don't talk to me like if i'm stupid...

[Scape]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

I don't see any threat to Canada, so whatever transpires (and I imagine it will be a lot of table pounding by Kim Jong Il and Obama), Canada should stay out of it. But this does provide yet more evidence as to why Canaeda should consider making itself a nuclear power.

Cuz all the cool kids have it?

I can see why NK has one. They are boxed in with India, Pakistan, Russia and China and they don't want to end up like Iraq. Kim isn't paranoid, he's realistic. We are out to get him.

[ShepherdsDog]

$1:

Kim isn't paranoid, he's realistic. We are out to get him.

I see you got your hands on some BC Bud.

[romanP]

No, he's quite right. The first thing that George Bush did after the World Trade Centre got planed was declare North Korea a part of an "Axis of Evil". Kim Jong Il has had every right to feel even more paranoid than usual. This problem could have been contained, and instead it was exacerbated.

[Proculation]

When Libya was listed as hostile at the beginning of the "War on Terror", Khadafi decided to withdraw from any WMD program and decided to resume talks with the US. Sanctions were lifted and now there are diplomatic relations between Libya and the US.

Saying that NK is excused to arm itself because they feel threatened is BS.

It reminds me of something that happened here in Montreal last week: three kids (aged ~15) attacked a 67yo woman to steal her purse. She tried to resist and finally she was beaten to death. Some community groups said tried to excuse the kids by saying "if she had not resisted, she would still be alive". Come on !