[jason700]

I still don't see a problem with bicycles on the sidewalk. It's way safer for everyone imo.

[Wally_Sconce]

we all agree that motorists shouldn't be running over pedestrians whenever they jaywalk, right?

so why would a cyclists driving habits influence how close you get to them while driving past them?

[Wally_Sconce]

jason700 jason700:

I still don't see a problem with bicycles on the sidewalk. It's way safer for everyone imo.

thats an ongoing debate on bicycle forums, ie sidewalks vs driving as a slow moving vehicle.

[fifeboy]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Cyclists cn get along with drivers, but not bicycle activists. The critical mass events don't help anyone.

Cycles über alles. The problem is that in an accident, it's the guy on the two wheeler that pays the price.

By the way, great new picture. Does that cat have a little red litter box?

[fifeboy]

Brenda Brenda:

I am seriously wondering why there are so little bike lanes. Of course (and here we go again...) where I come from, EVERY street has a bike lane (except for the highway, which I still think is the most stupid idea, a bike line on a highway...). Its just a matter of widening the roads you are building...

Brenda, if you can get this done, I will elect you Queen!

[Wally_Sconce]

Give me a safe shoulder or a bike lane to ride on, and I will definitely take it.

However, whenever there isn't a safe place for me on the side of the road, I will take the lane just like any other slow moving vehicle.

I have that right, I don't abuse it, and it would be nice if drivers would try to understand rather than honk.

[Lemmy]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

You'd be wrong if you lived where I do. Cyclists obeying traffic signs is almost non-existant, motorists obeying traffic signs is probably close to 100%.

Yeah, but most road rules have been designed for cars. What needs to happen is to re-write laws (and signs) to address both bicyclists' and motorists' needs. As Roman already pointed out, they need to co-exist, and I agree with him that bicycle lanes don't do this. As a cyclist, I feel safer IN auto traffic than BESIDE it with cars whipping by. What we have now is a system where cyclists are being forced to follow rules that aren't really applicable to their needs.

[Regina]

Wally_Sconce Wally_Sconce:

Give me a safe shoulder or a bike lane to ride on, and I will definitely take it.

However, whenever there isn't a safe place for me on the side of the road, I will take the lane just like any other slow moving vehicle.

I have that right, I don't abuse it, and it would be nice if drivers would try to understand rather than honk.

You are totally in the right!

A few years ago two of my chums and I were cycling on the paved shoulder of the highway. We were drafting so were single fine down the centre of the 8' paved shoulder. A car passed us and pulled over and this women got out and waited for us beside her car. Thinking she was in trouble or needing directions we stopped. She then started ripping us a new ass about how we should not be allowed on or near the highway and that bikes should only be on bike paths etc. The three of us looked at each other thinking she knew one of us and was joking. When we didn't say a word she said "Heeeelloooo is there anybody in there?" We then told her to get "stuffed" and took her plate number. We called the OPP and they paid her a home visit. They called back to say she was a real piece of work but she wouldn't be harassing cyclists anymore.

[fifeboy]

Regina Regina:

You are totally in the right!

A few years ago two of my chums and I were cycling on the paved shoulder of the highway. We were drafting so were single fine down the centre of the 8' paved shoulder. A car passed us and pulled over and this women got out and waited for us beside her car. Thinking she was in trouble or needing directions we stopped. She then started ripping us a new ass about how we should not be allowed on or near the highway and that bikes should only be on bike paths etc. The three of us looked at each other thinking she knew one of us and was joking. When we didn't say a word she said "Heeeelloooo is there anybody in there?" We then told her to get "stuffed" and took her plate number. We called the OPP and they paid her a home visit. They called back to say she was a real piece of work but she wouldn't be harassing cyclists anymore.

Thanks, buy ya a pint!

[Blue_Nose]

Kinda funny in Halifax, they're in the process of converting some major routes to include bike lanes, but the lanes in place are typically only for a a few blocks long - doesn't really make the roads any safer when your lane suddenly disappears.

I bite my tongue trying to not to curse at bikers when I'm driving (I do yell at the dicks that drive down the sidewalk if I'm walking, though - typically "It's called a sideWALK for a reason!") because the city really doesn't provide them with a lot of options.

[Brenda]

Just out of curiosity... Don't you cyclists feel freightened when you ride on the highway?

[Regina]

Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:

Kinda funny in Halifax, they're in the process of converting some major routes to include bike lanes, but the lanes in place are typically only for a a few blocks long - doesn't really make the roads any safer when your lane suddenly disappears.

I bite my tongue trying to not to curse at bikers when I'm driving (I do yell at the dicks that drive down the sidewalk if I'm walking, though - typically "It's called a sideWALK for a reason!") because the city really doesn't provide them with a lot of options.

We have a city bylaw that only allows bikes with tires smaller than 20"(?) on the sidewalks. Too many bikes flying down the sidewalk into the car doors.

Bikes have every right to the road as a car but must always ride by the rules that the cars need to follow too.

[Blue_Nose]

Regina Regina:

We have a city bylaw that only allows bikes with tires smaller than 20"(?) on the sidewalks.

which is smaller than any adult sized bike, correct? I would certainly not want kids driving on the roads, and they aren't going fast enough to be a problem on the sidewalk like older riders.... that's a good bylaw.

[raydan]

Here, outside Montreal, there are a lot of bike paths and I don't see any suddenly ending. I don't ride my bike downtown Montreal though, except on the bike paths that I know.
Generally, motorists here are OK with the bikers, but some are dangerous no matter what the situation is. I do see bikers behave in ways that they shouldn't, not stopping at stop signs or red lights being the most common.

[Regina]

Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:

Regina Regina:

We have a city bylaw that only allows bikes with tires smaller than 20"(?) on the sidewalks.

which is smaller than any adult sized bike, correct? I would certainly not want kids driving on the roads, and they aren't going fast enough to be a problem on the sidewalk like older riders.... that's a good bylaw.

Yes and the tire size may even be a bit smaller but it's to keep everyone except the very small kids off the side walk.