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xerxes xerxes:
Except that it's a US. military installation and the US Supreme Court has ruled that the laws of the US do apply to bast at Guantanamo. And if US bases don't count as US territoy in your book, then John McCain is less an American citizen than Obama.


I'll have to read up on jurisdiction over Guantanamo before I can attempt an answer...

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0221/p01s01-usju.html


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:13 pm
 


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Spanish has no say here. This is a political ploy that will have no substantial effect. Another reason why Americans in general don't care much about what Europe thinks.

So, what you are basically saying is... "Shut up"?

Absolutely. I don't like hearing dumb foreigners and their dumb foreign ideas. They should just shut up when they want to say something.


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xerxes xerxes:
It's debateable how sufe Bush and co. made the world safer from terrorism, and even if they had, they went about it using the methods of the Spanish Inquisition and of a host of brutal regimes which were in violation of both international law, US law, and most importantly the US Constitution.



Gimme a break...!!! So it's ok for these punks to hijack planes and fly them into downtown buildings with the intent to kill secretaries, clerical staff and office workers...

I say boycott Spain. It appears they are a nation of idiots who are more sympathetic to terrorist then an ally...


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xerxes xerxes:
Just remember, it was Spain that nailed Pinochet and its the same prosecutor in this case.




The same Pinochet that avoided said prosecution for
decades, laughing all the way to the funeral home ?


The same Spain that should be convicted for the deaths
of maybe tens of millions of people in Latin America,
and funding an entire empire from the rape and plunder
of said region ? for hundreds of years ??

Can you imagine the reparations from that plunder ?
Trillions..

The same Spain who religously persecuted hundreds of thousands
of Jews and Muslims, committing all levels of war crimes
in their effort to remove all non Catholics from Iberia ?

The same Spain that continues to hold African colonial territory ?

The same Spain ruled by a dictator for longer than Hitler,
committing all manners of crimes and persecution against its
own people, to the point that now all memorials against
Franco are gone, and even saying his name can create troubles ??

The same Spain who put troops on the ground in Iraq,
by your warped thinking, now supporting the Bush war in Iraq ?


Seriously, xerxes, stop drinking the kool aid.

There are few countries in Europe that have as much blood on their hands
than the Spanish, even Nazi Germany would have a tough time keeping up.

Maybe this prosecutor should open a history book once in a while,
he'll find a lot more in his own backyard than Bush and co.
could ever have done.

Spain has been criminal for centuries. :idea:


So, this is just some bullshit waste of time joke
to get some free press for the personal glory of an individual,
whose levels of hypocrisy could only be exceeded by those
who could actually support this nonsense.


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You don't know what any of the people at Guantanamo Bay would do because most of them haven't been charged with anything!


Yeah, they only picked them up on the battlefield shooting at our soldiers or in terrorist training camps.


You don't even know where they found those people. Many of them could be American citizens arrested in their own country.

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romanP, what should be done with Abdurahman Khadr, the young Canadian being held in Guantanamo Bay?


I have no idea. What has he been charged with?


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Who cares? This has about zero real value.


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Spanish has no say here. This is a political ploy that will have no substantial effect. Another reason why Americans in general don't care much about what Europe thinks.

So, what you are basically saying is... "Shut up"?

Absolutely. I don't like hearing dumb foreigners and their dumb foreign ideas. They should just shut up when they want to say something.



The conservative argument that trumps all, eh? I see martin14 is getting in on the "shut up" action too!


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:13 am
 


@Kotter: Let him have an 'accident'. I hear they happen all the time.


@Bush: Let's see Spain try and enforce anything. He lives in Texas, if he wants anything Spanish, all he has to do is talk to one of his domestics.


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commanderkai commanderkai:
Who cares? This has about zero real value.


Okay, have it your way. If laws don't matter to you, why are you so concerned about enforcing them?


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martin14 martin14:
The same Spain that should be convicted for the deaths
of maybe tens of millions of people in Latin America,
and funding an entire empire from the rape and plunder
of said region ? for hundreds of years ??


In that case, so should the English and the French right? Maybe all us Europeans should just leave the Americas?

martin14 martin14:
The same Spain who religously persecuted hundreds of thousands
of Jews and Muslims, committing all levels of war crimes
in their effort to remove all non Catholics from Iberia ?


Wasn't that almost 1000 years ago?

martin14 martin14:
The same Spain ruled by a dictator for longer than Hitler,
committing all manners of crimes and persecution against its
own people, to the point that now all memorials against
Franco are gone, and even saying his name can create troubles ??


Is their current government not legitimate? The fact that they hate Franco would tell me that they are well beyond that era.

martin14 martin14:
So, this is just some bullshit waste of time joke
to get some free press for the personal glory of an individual,
whose levels of hypocrisy could only be exceeded by those
who could actually support this nonsense.


In other words... "Shut up"?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:37 am
 


jason:


I am pointing out the hypocrisy in this announcement by these prosecutors,
its a complete joke.

some delude themselves to think its real, some delude themselves
even further to think that something will happen from it.

I believe the courts in Belgium think they have similar authority
over everyone else, so I'm just waiting for them as well :)

The ICC can neither catch a couple of bandits in Serbia, never mind
the African leaders who have made Africa what it is today...
and they havent said one word about Bush.
Nor are they going to.

And I dont beleive I have told anyone to "shut up",
the lefties like to do that :)


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:41 am
 


romanP romanP:
commanderkai commanderkai:
Who cares? This has about zero real value.


Okay, have it your way. If laws don't matter to you, why are you so concerned about enforcing them?


What are you talking about? This is about as unenforceable as anything else ever came up with, they have no legal jurisdiction for the "crimes" committed. They have no standing at all.

If this was a US court, then MAYBE, but a Spanish court cannot exactly prosecute a case that did not occur in Spain, unless they are the world's courtroom now.


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