[Heavy_Metal]

Axeman Axeman:

Heavy_Metal Heavy_Metal:

it is the schools fault when they do nothing when it 'spills over' into their realm.

Of course, but you're talking about a reactive stop-gap. Schools boards are trying to deal with these issues, but are powerless at the source. The only way to curb these incidents is to be proactive and that means parents must do a better job of monitoring their children's on-line activities. I would argue that no children under 18 should be allowed to use the net unsupervised (granted, that would be next to impossible to enfore), but my kids won't be on-line unsupervised if I can prevent it.

I do agree with you that the parents need to do a better job not only with monitoring online activities which is easily done through todays internet providers, security software, and independent web monitoring software; but also what their kids are doing period. While the internet is a huge part of bullying it is not the be all and end all of it, the kids can still text and use the phone to harass and plan a bullying attack.

It is blatantly obvious that the school boards have been limp dicks when responding to bullying. It should be a three strike rule board wide:

1st offense: week detention
2nd offense: month expulsion with expectation of 20 page research paper on the short and long term detriments of bullying before admittance back into school + sit down with a uniformed police officer.
3rd offense: find another BOARD not school, kicked from the entire school board.

[Axeman]

Heavy_Metal Heavy_Metal:

I do agree with you that the parents need to do a better job not only with monitoring online activities which is easily done through todays internet providers, security software, and independent web monitoring software; but also what their kids are doing period. While the internet is a huge part of bullying it is not the be all and end all of it, the kids can still text and use the phone to harass and plan a bullying attack.

It is blatantly obvious that the school boards have been limp dicks when responding to bullying. It should be a three strike rule board wide:

1st offense: week detention
2nd offense: month expulsion with expectation of 20 page research paper on the short and long term detriments of bullying before admittance back into school + sit down with a uniformed police officer.
3rd offense: find another BOARD not school, kicked from the entire school board.

While those seem like perfectly logical consequences to me, they are unenforceable. The Safe Schools Act of Mike Harris' in Ontario has pretty much proved that. None of its consequences have withstood parental court challenges.

[Heavy_Metal]

Axeman Axeman:

Heavy_Metal Heavy_Metal:

I do agree with you that the parents need to do a better job not only with monitoring online activities which is easily done through todays internet providers, security software, and independent web monitoring software; but also what their kids are doing period. While the internet is a huge part of bullying it is not the be all and end all of it, the kids can still text and use the phone to harass and plan a bullying attack.

It is blatantly obvious that the school boards have been limp dicks when responding to bullying. It should be a three strike rule board wide:

1st offense: week detention
2nd offense: month expulsion with expectation of 20 page research paper on the short and long term detriments of bullying before admittance back into school + sit down with a uniformed police officer.
3rd offense: find another BOARD not school, kicked from the entire school board.

While those seem like perfectly logical consequences to me, they are unenforceable. The Safe Schools Act of Mike Harris' in Ontario has pretty much proved that. None of its consequences have withstood parental court challenges.

heh yah, God forbid we use logic when teaching our children about the consequences of their actions

[Tricks]

Axeman Axeman:

Heavy_Metal Heavy_Metal:

it is the schools fault when they do nothing when it 'spills over' into their realm.

Of course, but you're talking about a reactive stop-gap. Schools boards are trying to deal with these issues, but are powerless at the source. The only way to curb these incidents is to be proactive and that means parents must do a better job of monitoring their children's on-line activities. I would argue that no children under 18 should be allowed to use the net unsupervised (granted, that would be next to impossible to enfore), but my kids won't be on-line unsupervised if I can prevent it.

It might also be the complete lack of punishment.

[Heavy_Metal]

Tricks Tricks:

Axeman Axeman:

Heavy_Metal Heavy_Metal:

it is the schools fault when they do nothing when it 'spills over' into their realm.

Of course, but you're talking about a reactive stop-gap. Schools boards are trying to deal with these issues, but are powerless at the source. The only way to curb these incidents is to be proactive and that means parents must do a better job of monitoring their children's on-line activities. I would argue that no children under 18 should be allowed to use the net unsupervised (granted, that would be next to impossible to enfore), but my kids won't be on-line unsupervised if I can prevent it.

It might also be the complete lack of punishment.

everyone up for corporal punishment for children say "I"

[Tricks]

Heavy_Metal Heavy_Metal:

everyone up for corporal punishment for children say "I"

Nay.

[tritium]

I smell a lawsuit in the works here.

As far as the little tramps pricking on this young girl. I am sure the kids don't fall far from the apple tree, bet you their parents are a pinnacle of society too. (double digit IQ's)

[PJB]

Here is a question. Where were the parents of the kids doing the bullying? I guess they can always say 'they didn't know what was going on'. Seeing that this girl is pretty and smart I am assuming that these girls are a bunch of ugly, fat, underachievers.

[BartSimpson]

I am glad I don't have kids. Were this my girl I'd get her into full military krav maga and teach her how to break bones with minimal effort. Of course, the damned schools never do sh*t about the bullies but they predictably go after the victims when they fight back so I'd also be prepared to make some late night visits to faculty members to illustrate my convictions.

Waking someone up in their own bed at 0330 with a knife at their throat guarantees their full and undivided attention to your opinions.

Again, I'm glad I don't have kids because there's no limit to what I'd do to protect my kid.

[Yogi]

The schoolboard is and should be held fully accountable for their lack of action. I hope the girls parents do launch a civil suit. They will win and schoolboards across the country will sit up and take notice!

I taught my kids how to handle themselves and to stand up to any situation, using whatever force they felt the situation justified and that I would (and did) back them 100%. However they were also cautioned that should 'they' be the instigator of any situation that they would quickly learn the meaning of 'wrath'. ( Never happened)!

[BartSimpson]

Yogi Yogi:

The schoolboard is and should be held fully accountable for their lack of action. I hope the girls parents do launch a civil suit. They will win and schoolboards across the country will sit up and take notice!

I taught my kids how to handle themselves and to stand up to any situation, using whatever force they felt the situation justified and that I would (and did) back them 100%. However they were also cautioned that should 'they' be the instigator of any situation that they would quickly learn the meaning of 'wrath'. ( Never happened)!

Good for you. A friend of mine at church had his boy come to me to learn some things and I taught the kid to respond to every taunt and every threat and every assault with sudden and explosive violence. It has now been a year since the kid had his last problems at school. The kid is, admittedly, a dork. But that does not excuse his attackers. Dorks have a right to go to school without having to fear for their safety just the same as anyone else.

[Yogi]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Yogi Yogi:

The schoolboard is and should be held fully accountable for their lack of action. I hope the girls parents do launch a civil suit. They will win and schoolboards across the country will sit up and take notice!

I taught my kids how to handle themselves and to stand up to any situation, using whatever force they felt the situation justified and that I would (and did) back them 100%. However they were also cautioned that should 'they' be the instigator of any situation that they would quickly learn the meaning of 'wrath'. ( Never happened)!

Good for you. A friend of mine at church had his boy come to me to learn some things and I taught the kid to respond to every taunt and every threat and every assault with sudden and explosive violence. It has now been a year since the kid had his last problems at school. The kid is, admittedly, a dork. But that does not excuse his attackers. Dorks have a right to go to school without having to fear for their safety just the same as anyone else.

My 'kids' are now grown and have families of their own in whom the practices they learned are being instilled. To this day, neither will 'stand by idley' while anyone else is being abused.

[martin14]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Yogi Yogi:

The schoolboard is and should be held fully accountable for their lack of action. I hope the girls parents do launch a civil suit. They will win and schoolboards across the country will sit up and take notice!

I taught my kids how to handle themselves and to stand up to any situation, using whatever force they felt the situation justified and that I would (and did) back them 100%. However they were also cautioned that should 'they' be the instigator of any situation that they would quickly learn the meaning of 'wrath'. ( Never happened)!

Good for you. A friend of mine at church had his boy come to me to learn some things and I taught the kid to respond to every taunt and every threat and every assault with sudden and explosive violence. It has now been a year since the kid had his last problems at school. The kid is, admittedly, a dork. But that does not excuse his attackers. Dorks have a right to go to school without having to fear for their safety just the same as anyone else.

I coulda used some of that in Grade 9.. However I discovered
that kicking someone in the balls really does work
putting your fist through someone's face is a bonus..

[Yogi]

More parents should be teaching their kids what 10 of the best means!

[llama66]

Personally I think they should toss the bullys in jail for a weekend, that should take some of the wind out of their sails, really though, shouldn't all the girls be charged? I know they'd all get suspended sentences, or some other form of a slap on the wrist, but really why not make examples of theses "girls"