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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:11 pm
 


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As much as Jack Layton may not like it, Iggy did the only logical thing and that is to let it pass. Obviously he doesn't agree with everything, but thats to be expected because he didn't write it. Hell, I dont even agree with all of it. I think there is too much money spread over too many areas. A bit of focus would have been better.

That being said, the situation we are in doesn't have time for elections or lengthy amendments. This is a good starting point and with the Libs keeping an eye to make sure that money flows to where its needed and quickly we can see where it leaves us.


hum

remember Adscam? u want these people overseeing our money??


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:01 pm
 


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hum

remember Adscam? u want these people overseeing our money??


At least they arent in charge of it this time.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:21 pm
 


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Right next to the guys that suck out my septic tank... I guess someone has to do it but everyone is sure as shit glad it isn't them.

You are an idiot. Maybe they should leave you to live in your own shit. Wait a minute, you already do....it'd be nice if the rest of us didn't have to though.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:36 pm
 


Jack & Gille went up the hill to bone Canada's leader.

Jack fell down, without the crown

and Gille came tumbling after!


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:37 pm
 


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The Coaltion served it's purpose of forcing Harper to deal with the recession in a way more suitable to the interests of the Oppostion.

I'm afraid I have to agree with you. He was probably not taking it as serious as he should and now he has.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:04 pm
 


Iggy did the only thing he could, which was to let the budget pass. To have defeated the budget and try and present the coalition to the GG would mean the death of the Liberal Party, as the outcry would have been deafening. The GG would have never have accepted the coalition BS, which means another election. Can you imagine Iggy going door to door saying, "Hi, I'm the guy who decided you don't need a tax cut. Vote for me!"
As for Jack Layton, he and anyone who supports him is a fucking, fucking, fucking idiot. He's shown time and time again he only cares about power at any cost. Power first, ideology second, the PMO's office third, Canada maybe pops up at number 25 or 26.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:16 pm
 


I wouldn't celebrate too soon. These are conditions Michael Ignatieff is giving to his acceptance of the budget, and if those conditions aren't met, you can bet the idea of forming a coalition will be right back on the table again.





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The Coaltion served it's purpose of forcing Harper to deal with the recession in a way more suitable to the interests of the Oppostion.

I'm afraid I have to agree with you. He was probably not taking it as serious as he should and now he has.


The coalition served a purpose however the purpose was lost on Hijack and Gilles.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:58 pm
 


What people seem to forget is that if the Conservatives don't pass the Igmeisters probation clause, a coalition isn't the only option.

Option number two is another general election, which seems more likely than the Iggy climbing in bed with Jackie and Duceppe. The Liberal party is broke, in debt and probably don't want another election till they get their house in order.

Plus, they have the luxury of being able to blame the whole depression, recession or whatever you want to call it on the Conservatives, without ever having to expose their own plan for economic recovery.

So in fact it's almost a win win situation for the Liberals, since they can escape the stink of coalition of the damned, embarass the Conservatives, get their finances in order and pick the time of their choosing to try and bring down the house.

The only problem with that theory will be Duceppe, who has come out and said he won't try another coalition with the Liberals and NDP again. So he may back the Conservatives even if the Liberals do try and bring down the government.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see if the Conservatives pass muster, or if Iggy was just playing for time. :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:27 pm
 


The purpose of Iggy's position is to campaign for next election instead of fighting now. He's gonna be the fly in the ointment, the pain in the ass, for about 18 months, then'll he'll topple the gov't and take his shot. He was VERY good in front of the camera today...a coming out party.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:43 pm
 


No real surprise about how this was going to end but Iggy impressed the hell out of me. He was pragmatic and low key. I think we may be looking at the next prime minister if he plays his cards right. I don’t think Harper is going to be able to pull this off.

I’m not committing my vote just yet, but I am paying attention.

I can even hear MTBR starting to sweat! :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:46 pm
 


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No real surprise about how this was going to end but Iggy impressed the hell out of me. He was pragmatic and low key. I think we may be looking at the next prime minister if he plays his cards right. I don’t think Harper is going to be able to pull this off.

I’m not committing my vote just yet, but I am paying attention.

I can even hear MTBR starting to sweat! :lol:
A cup of warm tea would impress you.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:48 pm
 


I still don't see this working all that well.
The CPC must come up with numbers, 3 times a year.. but then we'd expect the government to do that anyways.
Count Chocula burned a bridge to coalition land and it's not likely Jack and Gill are going to be willing to look like wallflowers, waiting for him to come back to them. It's going to take some conditions and convincing and that spells more bonuses for the NDP and Quebec.
The longer the duration, the father apart they will get and the more remote the chances are that this will pass the GG's inspection. She'll go for another general election instead.

In that time, Count Chocula must wait untill the new donation schemes bring in enough money to pay off the loans and build up a warchest for an election. Till then, all he can do is bluff and bluster... like Dion did.

I say we push them. I say they bring back the cut to the vote money and force him to go for the election or join Jack and Gill in the coalition. It would take the coalition a year or more to even come up with a plan and when they did, all the problems fall at the feet of Iggy.

We don't have to have a majority when the opposition is weak.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:45 pm
 


I'm just glad not to be heading back to the ballot box.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:43 am
 


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SigPig SigPig:
This is a good starting point and with the Libs keeping an eye to make sure that money flows to where its needed and quickly we can see where it leaves us.


Oh we really are fucked. 8O


Yes, that about sums it up very well.


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