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Bibbi
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Posts: 356
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:36 pm
ridenrain ridenrain: Iggy knows that almost all Canadian voters hated the idea of the coalition and he knows that the Liberal party can't fund another so he's going to sit on his hands, just like Dion did. The only people that will benefit from the coalition are the NDP and the Bloc. Irrespective of whether most Canadian voters hated the idea of the coaliton, there is another view. If the Liberals and NDP proved that a coaltion did work and provided progressive government that benefited all Canadians, then they would have a better chance of beating the Conservatives 18 months down the line. Moreover 18 months would give the Liberals, NDP, and Bloc time to replenish their resources and rebuild their parties. I am sure that this scenario has been considered by some Liberals as well as the NDP and Bloc.
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:42 pm
I think in these troubled times all 3 party's should put their grievances aside and work at solving this problem together,as a team.
Dont tell me it cant be done because it can.
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poquas
Forum Super Elite
Posts: 2245
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:15 pm
ziggy ziggy: I think in these troubled times all 3 party's should put their grievances aside and work at solving this problem together,as a team.
Dont tell me it cant be done because it can. The only person who needs to be convinced at the moment is Harper. Until he's ready to compromise and act like a human being, they'll just keep fighting like 3 year olds.
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:35 pm
I think we should damn the federal parties and let the provinces come up with plans, since they are more focused on actually getting their economies back on their feet then bitching at eachother, and the primiers know that no one province can do it alone, even Alberta, Ontario, or Quebec (hell, Quebec needs everyone else). And provinces working together to better their outcome means the nation as a whole will come out of this better.
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:38 pm
poquas poquas: ziggy ziggy: I think in these troubled times all 3 party's should put their grievances aside and work at solving this problem together,as a team.
Dont tell me it cant be done because it can. The only person who needs to be convinced at the moment is Harper. Until he's ready to compromise and act like a human being, they'll just keep fighting like 3 year olds. The NDP is rejecting the budget before seeing it...sounds like HiJack is the 3 year old....he's not going to be the important guy in the sandbox so he's going to continue crying.
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Posts: 15102
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:42 pm
poquas poquas: ziggy ziggy: I think in these troubled times all 3 party's should put their grievances aside and work at solving this problem together,as a team.
Dont tell me it cant be done because it can. The only person who needs to be convinced at the moment is Harper. Until he's ready to compromise and act like a human being, they'll just keep fighting like 3 year olds. So it's Harpers fault everyone is acting like 3 year olds?
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Posts: 15594
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:37 pm
Yes, that's just what our economy needs. To spend another $300 million on another election just a few months after the last one. Waste of time and money right now and it won't change a damn thing. My prediction is that if we do go to the polls we will have another Conservative minority, and I can guarantee that voter turnout will be even more pathetically low than it was in October.
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poquas
Forum Super Elite
Posts: 2245
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:37 pm
Pretty much. If he keeps kicking the crib, they're going to fight back.
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Posts: 15102
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:40 pm
poquas poquas: Pretty much. If he keeps kicking the crib, they're going to fight back. Lame. I expect politicians to act like adults regardless of what the others do. If they're acting childish it's because they are, not because of Harper.
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poquas
Forum Super Elite
Posts: 2245
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:43 pm
RUEZ RUEZ: poquas poquas: Pretty much. If he keeps kicking the crib, they're going to fight back. Lame. I expect politicians to act like adults regardless of what the others do. If they're acting childish it's because they are, not because of Harper. If you want adults, 2/3 of the commons are going to have to go. Harper set the tone with the the last shot and whatever happens now is his fault.
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Posts: 12398
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:45 pm
Lets have the "coalition" ... the final nail in the Liberal coffin. The NDP will just remain as "also rans" and the Bloc can be finally forced into mediocre provincialism.
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Posts: 15102
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:48 pm
poquas poquas: RUEZ RUEZ: poquas poquas: Pretty much. If he keeps kicking the crib, they're going to fight back. Lame. I expect politicians to act like adults regardless of what the others do. If they're acting childish it's because they are, not because of Harper. If you want adults, 2/3 of the commons are going to have to go. Harper set the tone with the the last shot and whatever happens now is his fault. Nope sorry, everyone is responsible for their own behaviour.
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poquas
Forum Super Elite
Posts: 2245
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:54 pm
RUEZ RUEZ: Nope sorry, everyone is responsible for their own behaviour. First thing you said right. Just remember it applies to EVERYONE.
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Posts: 15102
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:12 pm
poquas poquas: RUEZ RUEZ: Nope sorry, everyone is responsible for their own behaviour. First thing you said right. Just remember it applies to EVERYONE. Oh no. I'm pretty sure I've said many things right over the years.
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ridenrain
CKA Uber
Posts: 22594
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:45 pm
DerbyX DerbyX: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090109.wPOLignatieff0109/CommentStory/politics/
Yes he did.
You are such a hypocrite. You were all for Harper doing everything possible to obstruct, stall, sabotage, and oppose the Libs at every turn possible.
Your party played every dirty trick in the book (indeed they even wrote a book entailing this) to make parliament dysfunctional and laughed at the voters while they did it.
If you think that Harper is trusted by a majority of the voters then you are wrong. All you're proving is that Iggy has set imaginary conditions that the budget must meet. that's as concrete as the napkin policy that Dion made up during the debates. He's done no consultation with the CPC (and I proved that) or his sedition coalition buddies. The Liberal party ran the last election on money borrowed on all the property that the riding associations have. Even the money you sent in just paid interest. Their broke and since elections cost money, I predict another series of Dion-like missed votes.
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