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Chumley
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:05 pm
bootlegga bootlegga: Eisensapper Eisensapper: Why a newspaper delivery man? Would it have made more sense if it was Tim Horton's clerk?  Are you nuts??? You don't bite the hand that feeds you!
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:51 pm
Bibbi Bibbi: Eisensapper Eisensapper: Why a newspaper delivery man? We must be missing one heck of a lot of relevant info. It does not make sense that 3 cops from 3 different areas would get together for of all things to assault and rob a newspaper delivery man? Were they drunk, on drugs, whacko? They were partying at the Roxy...one flagged down a corvette, telling the driver he was an officer and needed a ride to the Hyatt, he than began freaking out in the Corvette. Once out of it, they commandeered the newspaper truck and assaulted the driver...witnesses called in the VPD regarding the assault in progress.
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Bibbi
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Posts: 356
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:02 pm
TattoodGirl TattoodGirl: Bibbi Bibbi: Eisensapper Eisensapper: Why a newspaper delivery man? We must be missing one heck of a lot of relevant info. It does not make sense that 3 cops from 3 different areas would get together for of all things to assault and rob a newspaper delivery man? Were they drunk, on drugs, whacko? They were partying at the Roxy...one flagged down a corvette, telling the driver he was an officer and needed a ride to the Hyatt, he than began freaking out in the Corvette. Once out of it, they commandeered the newspaper truck and assaulted the driver...witnesses called in the VPD regarding the assault in progress. Wow! Certainly makes you wonder about the "quality" of police officers that are being hired?
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:03 pm
Its 3 out of thousands though
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Bibbi
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Posts: 356
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:12 pm
TattoodGirl TattoodGirl: Its 3 out of thousands though True, but having talked to detectives in a social setting as in family and friends, you discover that a lot of police officers don't represent mainstream thinking and tend to be as aggressive as some on the dark side.
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:18 pm
Bibbi Bibbi: TattoodGirl TattoodGirl: Its 3 out of thousands though True, but having talked to detectives in a social setting as in family and friends, you discover that a lot of police officers don't represent mainstream thinking and tend to be as aggressive as some on the dark side. Thats your interpretation. I also have family and extremely close friends that are in law enforcement, as well as work closely with Officers, I do not find that a norm.
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Bibbi
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Posts: 356
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:25 pm
TattoodGirl TattoodGirl: Bibbi Bibbi: TattoodGirl TattoodGirl: Its 3 out of thousands though True, but having talked to detectives in a social setting as in family and friends, you discover that a lot of police officers don't represent mainstream thinking and tend to be as aggressive as some on the dark side. Thats your interpretation. I also have family and extremely close friends that are in law enforcement, as well as work closely with Officers, I do not find that a norm. Not my interpretation. We have just met different representatives. It is really impossible to generalize accurately as to which is the norm considering all the variables in location and all the other factors involved.
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Bibbi
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Posts: 356
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:42 pm
lily lily: City workers had to protect the newspaper guy with shovels and rakes. Sounds to me like we have enough facts to discuss this.... more details will just add to the story.
The cops were released through a side door - for anonymity. I think out west, you have more information than those of us in the east.
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acidcomplex
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Posts: 1453
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:30 am
karra karra: Yogi Yogi: Most of you seem to be 'a little quick to condemn'!
"They were released Wednesday night without charges being laid". Let me assure you - if they had not been cops - or for instance, if it was you and I pounding this poor sap - we would have been charged and maybe held for a bail hearing. And, our names would be spread across the media. This is not about cop-hating or baiting - it's about double-standards. exactly
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Posts: 33691
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:39 am
TattoodGirl TattoodGirl: Bibbi Bibbi: Eisensapper Eisensapper: Why a newspaper delivery man? We must be missing one heck of a lot of relevant info. It does not make sense that 3 cops from 3 different areas would get together for of all things to assault and rob a newspaper delivery man? Were they drunk, on drugs, whacko? They were partying at the Roxy...one flagged down a corvette, telling the driver he was an officer and needed a ride to the Hyatt, he than began freaking out in the Corvette. Once out of it, they commandeered the newspaper truck and assaulted the driver...witnesses called in the VPD regarding the assault in progress. Power tripping piggies all stoked up, yes, they are above the law 
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Posts: 1808
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:02 pm
sandorski sandorski: acidcomplex acidcomplex: "The three officers are from the West Vancouver, New Westminster and Delta police departments. Their names and ages are not being released."
What a bunch of horse shit, anyone else and the names would already be released.
"As soon as we can gather more information, a determination will be made as far as whether he is suspended immediately or whether he's reassigned to administrative duties until we can gather further information."
Are you kidding me? Im sure if i walked into my boss and said "oh yeah i got charged with assualt and robbery" the would say "Oh ok well keep working untill we figure it out"
Goddamn cops Ya, I'm perplexed about this also. Seems like we need some kind of civilian oversight. http://city.vancouver.bc.ca/police/poli ... index.htmlI think that is what your looking for. I believe it is much like our OCCOPS, Ontario Civilian Commission on Police Services, may be mistaken, but there are civilian oversight comities for just this situation.
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Posts: 1808
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:15 pm
karra karra: Yogi Yogi: Most of you seem to be 'a little quick to condemn'!
"They were released Wednesday night without charges being laid". Let me assure you - if they had not been cops - or for instance, if it was you and I pounding this poor sap - we would have been charged and maybe held for a bail hearing. And, our names would be spread across the media. This is not about cop-hating or baiting - it's about double-standards. there are THOUSANDS of examples of peoples names being withheld for whatever reason, ESPECIALLY during investigation. I love how much you are all pulling from this little article, there is NO WAY for any of us to get much of anything from that article. might have been a consensual fight, might have been self defense, or yeah, might have been just a couple of 20 year olds suffering from male machismo and fuzzy from drink that just made a really really bad choice. you want double-standards? civilians only have to answer to written legislation which directly pertains to the offense, be it Criminal Code, Liquor License Act, Controlled Drugs and Substances Act etc. Police Officers on the other hand have to answer to the above AND the PSA (Police Services Act) AND are now liable to civil litigation for action taken when on duty.
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Posts: 1808
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:18 pm
TattoodGirl TattoodGirl: Its 3 out of thousands though heh with the police, 1 is enough to smear the ENTIRE policing profession.
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ridenrain
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Posts: 22594
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:28 pm
Heavy_Metal Heavy_Metal: might have been a consensual fight, might have been self defense, or yeah, might have been just a couple of 20 year olds suffering from male machismo and fuzzy from drink that just made a really really bad choice.
Did you get that fax of talking points from the police union? I try to give the benefit of the doubt but 3 guys against a old newspaper delivery guy who was simply doing his job is looking damned bad there.
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ridenrain
CKA Uber
Posts: 22594
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:07 pm
This just couldn't get more pathetic. Their now saying that one of the officers works at the justice institute.. as an instructor for .. get this... USE OF FORCE. Yeah team! 
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