[roger-roger]

Its an embryo, not a person.

[acidcomplex]

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

Its an embryo, not a person.

which would be a person if given the chance. which its not

[Brenda]

Eventhough I hate to say it... I kinda have to agree with Acid here...

I understand where these people are coming from, but if it is meant to be that you have a genetic defect, it is meant to be that line should die out. Natural selection... They should not reproduce.

We humans should not want to own everything. We are creating "Ubermensch" with this. It is not okay, as far as I am concerned...

[roger-roger]

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

Its an embryo, not a person.

which would be a person if given the chance. which its not

The same could be said for any contraception, a woman on the pill is denying that egg life. A guy jerking off is denying all his sperm the chance to have life.

Whats wrong with a human that is impervious to types of disease though?

[acidcomplex]

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

Its an embryo, not a person.

which would be a person if given the chance. which its not

The same could be said for any contraception, a woman on the pill is denying that egg life. A guy jerking off is denying all his sperm the chance to have life.

Whats wrong with a human that is impervious to types of disease though?

ha no sorry there very different, hes not jacking off to kill the sperm on purpose because there's a gene in them that makes them gay or more likely to have a disease nor is the women.

There's nothing wrong with a human being immune to disease, if its come about naturally.

[roger-roger]

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

which would be a person if given the chance. which its not

The same could be said for any contraception, a woman on the pill is denying that egg life. A guy jerking off is denying all his sperm the chance to have life.

Whats wrong with a human that is impervious to types of disease though?

ha no sorry there very different, hes not jacking off to kill the sperm on purpose because there's a gene in them that makes them gay or more likely to have a disease nor is the women.

There's nothing wrong with a human being immune to disease, if its come about naturally.

It has the same effect though, so what really is the difference. If you gave me a shot in my testicles so they would not produce said genes in an embryo I would take it. All this therapy is doing is saving people the pain and suffering they would have to endure fighting a disease.

[acidcomplex]

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

It has the same effect though, so what really is the difference. If you gave me a shot in my testicles so they would not produce said genes in an embryo I would take it. All this therapy is doing is saving people the pain and suffering they would have to endure fighting a disease.

it does not have the same effect.thats horse shit, you dont know one hundred percent that they will get it, your just assuming they will.

[roger-roger]

When you, your mother, your aunt, your grandmother and your great grandmother had it you can be pretty sure your childern will get it. Do you really want to roll the dice with your childerens health? Why would you allow your child even a chance of getting a life threatening disease?

[acidcomplex]

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

When you, your mother, your aunt, your grandmother and your great grandmother had it you can be pretty sure your childern will get it.

I agree pretty sure but not 100 percent

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

Do you really want to roll the dice with your childerens health? Why would you allow your child even a chance of getting a life threatening disease?

You cannot vaccinate your kid from all life threatening disease so anyone who has a baby is rolling the dice by your logic.


I guess we should kill all babies who's mothers or fathers are gamblers or sexaholics or drunks, cause the kids couldn't possible not end up with the disease.

[Brenda]

Since when is it a birthright to have children?

[roger-roger]

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

When you, your mother, your aunt, your grandmother and your great grandmother had it you can be pretty sure your childern will get it.

I agree pretty sure but not 100 percent

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

Do you really want to roll the dice with your childerens health? Why would you allow your child even a chance of getting a life threatening disease?

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

You cannot vaccinate your kid from all life threatening disease so anyone who has a baby is rolling the dice by your logic.

Yes, you are.

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

I guess we should kill all babies who's mothers or fathers are gamblers or sexaholics or drunks, cause the kids couldn't possible not end up with the disease.

An addiction is not really a disease, people just say that to make themselves feel better.

[Heavy_Metal]

Brenda Brenda:

Now, of course I see the good parts in this... But where is the "Let nature take it's course" thing, if we are gonna decide our children cannot get sick?

I mean, don't get me wrong, but there is a reason some people have that gene, and others have not. There is a reason some people are stronger, others are not. It's called natural sellection. Do we humans have to own everything? Do we have to cure everything? If we do, the Earth gets over populated, and what brings us that?

(I am not trying to make this personal, I am trying to see the bigger picture.)

i agree and disagree with you, true human meddeling has caused alot of problems in the past and no doubt will cause more in the future, but i also agree with sapper in that if i can save my child from a debilitating disease i would jump at the chance.

unfortunately natural sellection has been obsolete for generations now.

[roger-roger]

Heavy_Metal Heavy_Metal:

Brenda Brenda:

Now, of course I see the good parts in this... But where is the "Let nature take it's course" thing, if we are gonna decide our children cannot get sick?

I mean, don't get me wrong, but there is a reason some people have that gene, and others have not. There is a reason some people are stronger, others are not. It's called natural sellection. Do we humans have to own everything? Do we have to cure everything? If we do, the Earth gets over populated, and what brings us that?

(I am not trying to make this personal, I am trying to see the bigger picture.)

i agree and disagree with you, true human meddeling has caused alot of problems in the past and no doubt will cause more in the future, but i also agree with sapper in that if i can save my child from a debilitating disease i would jump at the chance.

unfortunately natural sellection has been obsolete for generations now.

I think natural selection/evolution is alive an well its just evolved, now those who have a better chance of getting this therapy will survive. Those who dont make the cut still miss out.

[Brenda]

Heavy_Metal Heavy_Metal:

Brenda Brenda:

Now, of course I see the good parts in this... But where is the "Let nature take it's course" thing, if we are gonna decide our children cannot get sick?

I mean, don't get me wrong, but there is a reason some people have that gene, and others have not. There is a reason some people are stronger, others are not. It's called natural sellection. Do we humans have to own everything? Do we have to cure everything? If we do, the Earth gets over populated, and what brings us that?

(I am not trying to make this personal, I am trying to see the bigger picture.)

i agree and disagree with you, true human meddeling has caused alot of problems in the past and no doubt will cause more in the future, but i also agree with sapper in that if i can save my child from a debilitating disease i would jump at the chance.

unfortunately natural sellection has been obsolete for generations now.

There is always the choice of NOT having natural children when you have a genatic disorder (so to speak) in your family-line... Because it is not natural now anyway, is it...

Why not adopt? Why go this road? Why manipulate? Just because you want YOUR OWN child? If that is what you want, accept it the way it comes... Having children should be a natural process (note that I am not against IVF. I wouldn't do it myself though, but it is easy for me to say...)

[roger-roger]

I agree with that point Brenda, if you want a child disorder free you can always adopt I am sure that some people will pick that road. The option is still available for those who want to have a child that has their eyes, hair, skin ect.

Anyone who wants this treatment should pay for it no question, the price would most likely influence someone’s decision on if they should manipulate their embryo or adopt.