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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:07 am
 


They are pulling a new party out of their ass to form a government after they lost an election, ya thats what voting is about. :roll:


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:08 am
 


ziggy ziggy:
They werent on the ballot as the "coalition".
Get back to me when you figure that part out.

It wont work Zig I have been telling her something similar for almost a week. :|


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:09 am
 


mtbr mtbr:
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Is he like delusional? he is the biggest autocrat since Stalin



that never gets old :lol:





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Eisensapper Eisensapper:
ziggy ziggy:
They werent on the ballot as the "coalition".
Get back to me when you figure that part out.

It wont work Zig I have been telling her something similar for almost a week. :|


Her and Kenmore have been in a bad state of denial ever since the libs lost the election. :lol:





PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:29 am
 


Eisensapper Eisensapper:
that never gets old :lol:



apparently it does a mod deleted one yesterday :lol:


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$1:
Instead, he warned once again against any coalition that needed the support of the separatist Bloc Quebecois to survive and said if the opposition wanted a coalition, it would have to seek voter support in another election.

There’s no justification “for trying to suggest that Canadians would put into power a coalition where the Bloc Quebecois would have a veto over the affairs of the country,” Harper said.

“Having the Bloc Quebecois have a veto over the decisions of a national government would be very dangerous for the long run interests of the country.”



Oh boy, is the man right...


Let me explain something about "coalition politics"...
The one with the most votes (like the CPC) is usually the one that forms the coalition, to get a majority.
The one that did not win the election can form ANY clique they want, they still did not win the election, so they are OPPOSITION.
The CPC won the election, and to get a majority, they should form a coalition, or govern as a minority. The "coalition" as formed now, is still OPPOSITION. Which is obvious, since the government is prorogued. And not by the "coalition".

It may not have happened a lot in Canada, but it does in Europe. I don't know any different than coalitions who govern the country.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:05 am
 


This isn't Europe.


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ridenrain ridenrain:
This isn't Europe.


No, but the system is the same. Coalition is coalition, in any language.
Whats your point?


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:25 am
 


denmns denmns:
You want to know what to do?

Tell Harper to do what is right for everyone, and not just his "big business, banks, and rich" buddies.


That funny, if you look at which party "big business" supports and its not the conservatives. It is the Liberals. Until the donations laws were changed a few years ago "big business" donated more money to the Liberals than any other party.





PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:26 am
 


Sapio Sapio:
denmns denmns:
You want to know what to do?

Tell Harper to do what is right for everyone, and not just his "big business, banks, and rich" buddies.


That funny, if you look at which party "big business" supports and its not the conservatives. It is the Liberals. Until the donations laws were changed a few years ago "big business" donated more money to the Liberals than any other party.


don't confuse them you might destroy the left wing myth.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:39 am
 


ziggy ziggy:
denmns denmns:
They were on the ballot in Quebec, and it is part of Canada.

What would it be like if a separtist party from Alberta had won seats in the last election?
Would they still count?

Harper is just showing an attitude that seems very simular to other leaders from the past when it comes to running the country their way. He won the election, but did not get the majority of votes, or seats.



Funny but I didnt see the word "COALITION" on my ballot and I'm sure it wasnt on the ballots in Quebec either.
Coalitions are still a part of Parliamentary Government. Steven Harper was elected as the leader of the Conservative Party, and when that party won more seats than any other parties, he became Prime Minister. The office of Prime Minister is the person who has the confidence of the House to operate the government. If the house decides it has confidence in someone else that has been elected in their riding, than that someone else can form a new government in the house. The electorate can decide during the next election. Now, this didn't happen. The GG took another route. I don't know why as she didn't call me and consult with me. It is, however, quite legal and will get sorted at the next election.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:57 am
 


Brenda Brenda:
ridenrain ridenrain:
This isn't Europe.


No, but the system is the same. Coalition is coalition, in any language.
Whats your point?



There has been only one coalition government in Canada since confederation and that was in 1917. That coalition was forged in the heat of the First World War, where Canadians dedicated unpresidented effort and lives to a single purpose.

Is you're point to tell us that this curent prolen in parliament is as bad?

To tout this as a common and acceptable thing TO CANADIANS is obviously a lie and the recent polling, showing the huge unpopularity of this coalition is further proof.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:59 am
 


ridenrain ridenrain:
Brenda Brenda:
ridenrain ridenrain:
This isn't Europe.


No, but the system is the same. Coalition is coalition, in any language.
Whats your point?



There has been only one coalition government in Canada since confederation and that was in 1917. That coalition was forged in the heat of the First World War, where Canadians dedicated unpresidented effort and lives to a single purpose.

Is you're point to tell us that this curent prolen in parliament is as bad?

To tout this as a common and acceptable thing TO CANADIANS is obviously a lie and the recent polling, showing the huge unpopularity of this coalition is further proof.

You have a serious problem with reading, don't you...

Read my post again, and see what I wrote.
If you don't understand it then, I will try to explain it like I explain it to my kids.


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Lol. Did you pick up that tact from Derby? :roll:

As I have shown: Although they may be "legal", they are very uncommon.
The last one was needed to keep the nation together in time of war.

Is the greed of the NDP and the Liberals as large as that?


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ridenrain ridenrain:
Lol. Did you pick up that tact from Derby? :roll:

As I have shown: Although they may be "legal", they are very uncommon.
The last one was needed to keep the nation together in time of war.

Is the greed of the NDP and the Liberals as large as that?


Sweetheart, I KNOW.

What I am saying in that post, is that the LPC and the NDP can form any "coalition" they want, they are still OPPOSITION.

The CPC still won the election. The CPC is the only one that can form a coalition and be a majority GOVERNMENT. What I don't understand though (and that might be my European view...) is why the CPC didn't look for a coalition-partner, and shut the NDP and LPC up with that. The CPC can still govern the country as a minority government, with a majority opposition. It's hard, but can be done. And can be done well.

A coalition government is not that bad, but what the NDP and LPC are doing IS bad. What the Bloc is pulling is complete BS. They have no intention of running the country. All they want is make their case clear, so they do not belong in any governing coalition. They don't even deserve the light of day in a Federal Election, imo, but that is just opinion.

Anyway... Imo, Harper is doing the thing he needs to do, the "coalition" is trying to bully their way into running this country, and that is not the way you want this country to be led.


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