[Reverend Blair]

ID doesn't necessarily though, in fact I don't recall anybody having ID with a section map address on it, and if your name isn't on the utility bill, it proves nothing anyway. So I've got a nephew who is living at my father's place to look after it. His ID has nothing but a box number on it. The utility bills still have my step-mother's name on them. Is he going to have trouble at the polls? I don't know if he will or not, but according to the rule he should.

I know at least one guy who doesn't even have a box number. He lives up north and gets his mail general delivery. He doesn't get utility bills either, since he has no utilities. I don't know what it says on his ID, but he doesn't have much of an address at all. I don't expect he'll have any trouble though, being that he's been volunteering for the Conservative campaign. Still, what if a Liberal or NDP scrutineer demands that he provides proof of his right to vote?



What happens to people living in downtown Vancouver? I know it's an issue there because their MP spoke out when the law was being brought in. Many of her constituents don't have the required ID and don't get utility bills. It's a serious issue in her riding.

The original story is about reserves, and the same goes there. A lot of people don't have ID and the band office pays their utilities. So voting becomes very difficult for them.

We need a better law. This one disenfranchises people. The idea should be to get more people to vote, not fewer.

[roger-roger]

I saw people bringing in all sorts of bills not just utility, and from what my understanding is you can bring in your first nations card and a drivers permit and be able to vote.
And then there is this..

$1:

If an aboriginal person doesn't have identification or proof of address on voting day, he or she can get the local band office to vouch for him or her

[roger-roger]

This also raises the question, how does one get through life with only 1 form of identification. When I have to replace my bank card I have to go through the same process with 2 forms of ID or one ID and a bill with my adress on it.

[RUEZ]

Reverend Blair Reverend Blair:

It also occurs to me that a lot of rural people I know, some of them quite wealthy, don't have ID with their street number on it because they don't have street numbers. It's kind of hard to put, "2-1/2 miles east on the highway, then take the grid road to the correction line and turn left at the PMU. You'll see the horses," on a driver's license, after all.

My sister lives in rural Alberta on a range road. She has a street address.

[Scape]

Available in: 27 heritage languages and 8 Aboriginal languages

$1:

Option 1

Provide one original piece of identification issued by a government or government agency containing your photo, name and address (e.g. driver’s licence).

or
Option 2

Provide two original pieces of identification authorized by the Chief Electoral Officer of Canada. Both pieces must contain your name, and one must also contain your address (e.g. health card and hydro bill).

or
Option 3

Swear an oath and be vouched for by an elector who is on the list of electors in the same polling division and who has an acceptable piece or pieces of identification (e.g. a neighbour, your roommate).

I see nothing wrong with this.

[roger-roger]

Its ok Rev just needed something to complain about

[kenmore]

I totally agree with the ID requirement. I have worked a few elections and have been a DRO.. There were people who tried to vote more than once.. there was one time a guy tried to come back 3x.. I mean hello,,, if you cant produce some identification sorry .. the thing that pissed me off at the advance poll in Montreal was the guy asked me to say my name and address out loud after my ID was checked twice and my name checked off the list of voters.. I told him it invaded my privacy as there were about 100 people who where in hearing distance..

[Zipperfish]

These changes, from what I understand, came about some two years ago, before the election was called. That would have been the time for these organziations representing aborigianl interests to speak up, not the day before election day. These changes go through a number of official channels with, usually, more than one opportunity to speak up.

[Scape]

The funny thing is for me I have several photo ids' none of which have my current addy. I hope the wife can vouch for me!

[roger-roger]

Just so I can beat this to death here is a list from the pamphlet that Elections Canada sent me:
Pieces of Identification Authorized by the Chief Electoral Officer of Canada, this is in substitution if you do not have government ID containing your photo, name and address. You must provide two pieces of identification, both pieces must contain your name and at least one must contain your adress. (ie health card and hydro bill)

ID Cards:
Health Card
Hospital Card
SIN Card
Birth Certificate
Drivers Licence
Provincial/Territorial ID card
Canadian Passport
Certification of Indian Status
Certificate of Canadian Citizenship or Citizenship Card
Credit/Debit card with elector name
CF ID card
Veterans Affairs Card
Employee card issued by employer
Old Age Security ID card
Public Transportation Card
Student ID Card
Library Card
Liquor ID Card
Canadian Blood Services Card
Fishing Licence
Wildlife ID Card
Hunting Licence
Firearm Acquisition Card/Firearm Possession Card
Outdoors Card and Licences
Local Community Server Center Card (CLSC)

Original Documents
(Containing name and address):
Credit Card Statement
Bank Statement
Utility Bill (phone bill, cable bill, cell phone, hyro, gas, water ect)
Attestation of Residence issued by responsible authority of an Indian band or Reserve
Local Property Tax Statement
School, College, or University Report Card/Transcript
Residential Lease, Residential Mortgage statement or agreement
Canada Child Tax Benefit Statement
Income Tax Assessment Notice
Insurance Policy
Government Cheque or Government Cheque Stub with electors name
Statement of Employment Insurance Benefits Paid (T4E)
Canada Pension Plan Statement or Contributions/Quebec Pension Plan Statement of Participation
Statement of Old Age Security (T4A) or Statement of Canada Pension Plan Benefits (T4AP)
Statement of Benefits board
Statement of Direct Deposit for Provincial works or provincial disability support program
Vehicle Ownership
Vehicle Insurance
Attestation of Residence issued by the responsible authorities (Shelter, soup kitchens, student/senior residences, long term care facilities ect)
Letter from Public Curator

Also if you have nothing, buck naked nothing on you, you can swear an oath and be vouched for by an elector who is on the same list of electors in the same polling division and who has an acceptable piece of pieces of Identification. (ie neighbour, roommate, wife, husband ect).
So there is no possible reason anyone can have a problem with this......
I await Rev to start bitching....

[ridenrain]

Can I still wear a burka?

[Scape]

It took me 2 minutes. It was quicker than the last election.

[uwish]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Can I still wear a burka?

what if your a hut, they don't have to have photo's on their drivers license.

(not sure what kind of turn out they get for voting though)

I think you should just show up wearing a burka and refuse to take it off.

see what shakes out of that!

[Thanos]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Can I still wear a burka?

Do caves in Afghanistan even have zip codes?

[kenmore]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Can I still wear a burka?

love that one..... but you still have to have ID and it has to have your address on it.. bank cards are not accepted..