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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:21 pm
Slate magazine  It only communist propaganda. Funny how they try to make it look like a real news article funny little marxists 
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:45 pm
ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny: Slate magazine  It only communist propaganda. Funny how they try to make it look like a real news article funny little marxists  Lol, so FOX does it its all good news for flag waving Nazis. The commies do it and its propaganda. How about having the ability to read either or both and sort through the shit and make up your own mind? You would have to open your eyes and your mind a little, try to comprehend other's points of view...
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:55 pm
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:57 pm
What's wrong with Canada is pinkos like Christopher Flavelle don't seem to know the first damn thing about our country. Being an American though, it really doesn't surprise me.
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:59 pm
bootlegga bootlegga: Well, until Ontario started charging premiums, a large majority of Canadians did get health care for free. Even the $56 you pay (which is odd, because everyone else in Alberta pays $44 for individuals, $88 for families), is still far cheaper than health care premuims in the US. My friend in Detroit pays over $400 a month, and my sister in-law in San Jose pays almost $1000. In this instance 'free' means not getting a bill with your name on it. In fact every province does charge for coverage but most just make it a part of general tax revenue and we get back in equalization payments. Even with Alberta nixing the premiums they still are being paid for on the books. It just becomes a political football because people can see the invoices with their names on it but in no way is the health system 'free'. Somehow, somewhere that piper has to be paid. Doctors don't work for free and clinics don't staff themselves and if you pay federal and provincial taxes then you are paying for healthcare.
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:13 pm
Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco: ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny: Slate magazine  It only communist propaganda. Funny how they try to make it look like a real news article funny little marxists  Lol, so FOX does it its all good news for flag waving Nazis. The commies do it and its propaganda. How about having the ability to read either or both and sort through the shit and make up your own mind? You would have to open your eyes and your mind a little, try to comprehend other's points of view... ![huh? [huh]](./images/smilies/icon_scratch.gif) Yeah and I have made up my mind Slate is communist 
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:21 pm
dbtech1969 dbtech1969: What's wrong with Canada is pinkos like Christopher Flavelle don't seem to know the first damn thing about our country. Being an American though, it really doesn't surprise me. So all you want is attention?
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:05 pm
llama66 llama66: in Alberta the Health Premiums are $44 for a single person, but as if Jan 1/09 the government is eliminating the premium. An idea they stole from the Liberal party.
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Reverend Blair
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:35 pm
Ah, I love when I open a thread and somebody with the political acumen of a dead cat is spewing forth about "commies". Jesus, I've known actual real live communists. I may not agree with them, but as a group at least they are capable of carrying on a real conversation. Also, they tend to pay for the round when it's their turn, which puts them way ahead of most of the Conservatives I've known.
I found the Slate article to be pretty superficial, but then he's writing for an American audience and had about 750 words to cover the subject. He does point out some real issues though. This country is in a state of political flux that we likely haven't seen in a long time, and we seem to be headed in the wrong direction when it comes to world events.
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:29 am
About the articles author...
Christopher Flavelle is a contributing writer for The Big Money, Slate's business site, which will launch later this month. He was previously a speechwriter for Stéphane Dion, leader of the Liberal Party of Canada.
This isn't news, its Liberal propaganda.
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:03 am
Reverend Blair Reverend Blair: Ah, I love when I open a thread and somebody with the political acumen of a dead cat is spewing forth about "commies". Jesus, I've known actual real live communists. I may not agree with them, but as a group at least they are capable of carrying on a real conversation. Also, they tend to pay for the round when it's their turn, which puts them way ahead of most of the Conservatives I've known. 
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:35 pm
bootlegga bootlegga: tritium tritium: Why the FUCK do people always say; "health care is free."
$56 dollars a month, plus Blue Cross is NOT FREE!!!!
Canada mean, because people people of come to their senses and now vote Conservative..
Slate = Liberal slush puppy. Well, until Ontario started charging premiums, a large majority of Canadians did get health care for free. Eugh, for the 10,000th time if your taxes pay for it, it is still NOT by any reasonable person's standard FREE. Health care is almost entirely funded by INvoluntary contributions from productive Canadians working in the private sector.
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:11 pm
so you don't want to pay for Health Care via our taxes Faile? is that what I'm getting here? because the alternative is two tier, and well that I don't think works too well south of the border.
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:38 pm
People from all around the world go south of the border to get procedures either not available anywhere else or with little or no wait time. How well our system works compared to the US tends to be greatly exaggerated as a matter of national pride. And while their particular implementation of privatized/two-tier health-care leaves much to be desired, improvements can be made to their model without going the entirely socialist route, however there is really no other current example to compare it with.
However, I do not want to pay someone's hospital tab when they're injured in high risk activities (mountain climbing, skydiving, motorcycling without a helmet, etc, etc.) nor do I want to take anyone's right to do those things which have little risk of harming anyone else away.
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:06 pm
faile faile: However, I do not want to pay someone's hospital tab when they're injured in high risk activities (mountain climbing, skydiving, motorcycling without a helmet, etc, etc.) nor do I want to take anyone's right to do those things which have little risk of harming anyone else away. No-fault insurance? You know how much of a boondoggle that was for the auto industry right? We can't make judgement calls like that. Darwin's law will keep that silliness to a minimum. Enforcement of such a practice on a case by case basis simply is an administrative burden and will only further slow care. We need less bureaucracy in this regard not more.
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