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Posts: 12283
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:17 pm
ridenrain ridenrain: Streaker Streaker: What a surprise! More civvies killed by a bunch of trigger-happy yahoo soldiers.
Oh well.... Not such a big deal: They were just hadjis. You are human garbage. I wonder if Jihad Jack will be mouthing off about Canadian terrorists again. I hope not. I'm relying on him to take some votes from the Liberals in this election and that won't work if he acts like his usual retarted self. I wonder how many died in Darfur today.. or can't we talk about that because the Chinese are running that show? POS media. Yeah, great... How do we win their hearts and minds when we're killing their kids, pray tell?
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:28 pm
Tricks Tricks: PENATRATOR PENATRATOR: You know as well as I do Bart, threads like this are the only place you see Streaker, infact he lives for such things to occur, I am sure he pulls his pathetic little prick to these stories. Odd how we don't hear of the thousands killed by the terrorists deliberately, debated on here much at all, though I am sure Streak would find some way to side with the Taliban.
Fuck him, he is a coward who gets his ideals through the like of Eric Margolis and/or other half truths reported in the media, if he were ever in a position of harm, he would shit his cowardly self, he is a weasle. Pen I would give you + rep for that, but I can't so soon after giving it to Bart, so here's a  instead  I did it for you. 
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:30 pm
Streaker Streaker: How do we win their hearts and minds when we're killing their kids, pray tell? Why don't you volunteer with one of the humanitarian aid groups that goes over there to help their kids since their kids mean so much to you? Or is the truth that you don't really give a rip about those children so far as that they gave you a reason to slam on Canadian soldiers?
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roger-roger
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:55 pm
Hopefully now that everyone has it out of their system....
First streaker you failed to notice that it said NATO troops, which could mean any country in NATO, so blaming exclusively the US is not accurate. Canadian soldiers have a very good track record in regards to friendly fire; Canadian soldiers are made to go out of their way to protect non-combatants. The recent civilian deaths were in the Helmand and near Kabul. Both places the Canadians do not have an active combative force. So for the record Canada did not kill these children and blame should not be put on us for it .
Kabul has several nations in it from Afghan National Army to polish, so it could be anyone. The Helmand's 3 major ISAF countries are Americans, British and ANA. Personally I feel it was either the Americans or ANA, the British are just as good if not better then the Canadians. In the end however putting blame to one country doesn’t do anything at all. For a few weeks afterwards the ROEs might be stricter when it comes to engaging around friendlys, but they will go back to normal, I am sorry but that is how it is. Where the blame truly lies is with the Taliban, if a terrorist dresses up like a civilian, turns a corner and opens up on soldiers then hides in a house with a family in it. It is the terrorist at fault. If he did not put the family, which he cares nothing about, at risk then he would only be sacrificing his own life not those of the innocent. The Taliban have made it a habit to make the mentality challenged into suicide bombers and children into suicide bombers they have no regard for life, be it theirs or someone else’s. I will say one thing is closing though, the Americans do have to adjust their ROEs, bombings of weddings and friendly troops do happen much too often. I am interested to see how the 800 American soldiers in the Maywan will function under Canadian command.
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:31 am
Eisensapper Eisensapper: Where the blame truly lies is with the Taliban, if a terrorist dresses up like a civilian, turns a corner and opens up on soldiers then hides in a house with a family in it. It is the terrorist at fault. If he did not put the family, which he cares nothing about, at risk then he would only be sacrificing his own life not those of the innocent. The Taliban have made it a habit to make the mentality challenged into suicide bombers and children into suicide bombers they have no regard for life, bet it theirs or someone else’s. Come now Streak, why no comment on this? Is that you have no defense for those poor kind hearted terrorists in wake of the truth?
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:30 am
PENATRATOR PENATRATOR: Eisensapper Eisensapper: Where the blame truly lies is with the Taliban, if a terrorist dresses up like a civilian, turns a corner and opens up on soldiers then hides in a house with a family in it. It is the terrorist at fault. If he did not put the family, which he cares nothing about, at risk then he would only be sacrificing his own life not those of the innocent. The Taliban have made it a habit to make the mentality challenged into suicide bombers and children into suicide bombers they have no regard for life, bet it theirs or someone else’s. Come now Streak, why no comment on this? Is that you have no defense for those poor kind hearted terrorists in wake of the truth? The truth is that soldiers like you would act no differently than the terrorists if it weren't for civilians cracking the whip and keeping you boors in line. That's what citizens do - that's our responsibility in a free country.
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roger-roger
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:37 am
What the hell are you talking about? Are you seriously saying that the Canadian military would go out of its way to kill civilains?
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:40 am
Streaker Streaker: PENATRATOR PENATRATOR: Eisensapper Eisensapper: Where the blame truly lies is with the Taliban, if a terrorist dresses up like a civilian, turns a corner and opens up on soldiers then hides in a house with a family in it. It is the terrorist at fault. If he did not put the family, which he cares nothing about, at risk then he would only be sacrificing his own life not those of the innocent. The Taliban have made it a habit to make the mentality challenged into suicide bombers and children into suicide bombers they have no regard for life, bet it theirs or someone else’s. Come now Streak, why no comment on this? Is that you have no defense for those poor kind hearted terrorists in wake of the truth? The truth is that soldiers like you would act no differently than the terrorists if it weren't for civilians cracking the whip and keeping you boors in line. That's what citizens do - that's our responsibility in a free country. Well don't you think you know everything! Man, your lack of brain power is astonishing, reread what you just wrote dude, nice assumption ass chin, jeezus
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:43 am
Eisensapper Eisensapper: What the hell are you talking about? Are you seriously saying that the Canadian military would go out of its way to kill civilains? It's happened before - maybe not at the hands of the Canadian military but soldiers have committed all kinds of atrocities against civilians.
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:50 am
Streaker Streaker: Eisensapper Eisensapper: What the hell are you talking about? Are you seriously saying that the Canadian military would go out of its way to kill civilains? It's happened before - maybe not at the hands of the Canadian military but soldiers have committed all kinds of atrocities against civilians. Nice Back pedalling. Yes, you said "Soldiers like me", so yeah, you were talking about Canadian soldiers. By the way the 5000 or so they killed 9/11 were mainly civillian, the people they regularily kill with suicide bombings are civillian (Glynn Berry also) so I guess these are atrocities also, depending on whose side you are on (and we all know whose side you are on)
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roger-roger
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:51 am
Yes that is what happens when you take poorly trained soldiers and drop them in a clusterfuck. We are not talking about conscripted soldiers who were given 3 weeks of training and a rifle, then dropped in warzone and involved in a battle of attrition. I really dont know why you cant just admit you know nothing about the subject and leave it at that.
By the way if you think the west still wages war the same way as it did 30+ years ago, you are pretty hopeless.
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:54 am
Eisensapper Eisensapper: you are pretty hopeless. You just summed up Streakers knowledge of the Afghanistan mission
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:58 am
PENATRATOR PENATRATOR: Streaker Streaker: Eisensapper Eisensapper: What the hell are you talking about? Are you seriously saying that the Canadian military would go out of its way to kill civilains? It's happened before - maybe not at the hands of the Canadian military but soldiers have committed all kinds of atrocities against civilians. Nice Back pedalling. Yes, you said "Soldiers like me", so yeah, you were talking about Canadian soldiers. By the way the 5000 or so they killed 9/11 were mainly civillian, the people they regularily kill with suicide bombings are civillian (Glynn Berry also) so I guess these are atrocities also, depending on whose side you are on (and we all know whose side you are on) No back-pedalling, actually. One of the reasons we haven't seen Canadian soldiers do too much bad is simply that we don't have too many of them. Otherwise, you guys are no nicer or better than any other country's soldiers. That myth got shattered in Somalia. Nice try, but I'm not on the side of the terrorists.
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:59 am
Eisensapper Eisensapper: Yes that is what happens when you take poorly trained soldiers and drop them in a clusterfuck. We are not talking about conscripted soldiers who were given 3 weeks of training and a rifle, then dropped in warzone and involved in a battle of attrition. Somalia, dude... Were they conscripts?
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Chumley
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:14 am
Streaker Streaker: Eisensapper Eisensapper: What the hell are you talking about? Are you seriously saying that the Canadian military would go out of its way to kill civilains? It's happened before - maybe not at the hands of the Canadian military but soldiers have committed all kinds of atrocities against civilians. It's all happened before at the hands of civilians too. You are starting to sound like PETA.
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