[Wally_Sconce]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

That applies to Dion quite well. If he doesn't get his way, he refuses to vote.

Dion has been a shitty oposition leader.

Harper's been a shitty PM, playing fast and loose with what constitutes confidence. While I wish Dion would bring down the Conservatives, I'm glad he hasn't done so on any of the BS "confidence" matters Harper's dreamed up to try and enginee his own downfall. If Dion does grow a pair, I hope it's on a legitimate confidence vote that's in line with precident.

[hurley_108]

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

ROTFL

I gues we can add your name to the list of utter cowards who would rather attack rep points than argue a point.

[mtbr]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

That applies to Dion quite well. If he doesn't get his way, he refuses to vote.

Dion has been a shitty oposition leader.

Harper's been a shitty PM, playing fast and loose with what constitutes confidence. While I wish Dion would bring down the Conservatives, I'm glad he hasn't done so on any of the BS "confidence" matters Harper's dreamed up to try and enginee his own downfall. If Dion does grow a pair, I hope it's on a legitimate confidence vote that's in line with precident.

BS confidence matters like the Immigration bill that was so important to Canadians according to the liberals, but what did they do?

[bootlegga]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

ROTFL

I gues we can add your name to the list of utter cowards who would rather attack rep points than argue a point.

Who cares? Ever look at the people who 'debate' with rep points? Most of them are either negative or have only a fraction of what the rest of us have. Why?

What goes around comes around...let them play their childish games while the adults talk.

[uwish]

Liberals are the biggest joke since trucrap.

They have missed what 4 confidence votes? Why because he knows he CAN"T win!

so much for his morals or his "best for Canadians" attitude.

Dildo = Dion = JOKE

bring it on DION!!

[CommanderSock]

$1:

Liberals are the biggest joke since trucrap.

They have missed what 4 confidence votes? Why because he knows he CAN"T win!

so much for his morals or his "best for Canadians" attitude.

Dildo = Dion = JOKE

bring it on DION!!

You'll be so sadly dissapointed when it ends up how it started, a house of commons split right down the middle.

[Wally_Sconce]

CommanderSock CommanderSock:

$1:

Liberals are the biggest joke since trucrap.

They have missed what 4 confidence votes? Why because he knows he CAN"T win!

so much for his morals or his "best for Canadians" attitude.

Dildo = Dion = JOKE

bring it on DION!!

You'll be so sadly dissapointed when it ends up how it started, a house of commons split right down the middle.

more proof that Dion doesn't get the job done. He's had how many years to rebuild the Liberal party?

[mtbr]

CommanderSock CommanderSock:

$1:

Liberals are the biggest joke since trucrap.

They have missed what 4 confidence votes? Why because he knows he CAN"T win!

so much for his morals or his "best for Canadians" attitude.

Dildo = Dion = JOKE

bring it on DION!!

You'll be so sadly dissapointed when it ends up how it started, a house of commons split right down the middle.

split right down the middle with 154 conservatives on one side

[hurley_108]

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

more proof that Dion doesn't get the job done. He's had how many years to rebuild the Liberal party?

Dion himself, Coming up on 1. The party in general, coming up on 2. It took the Conservatives 13 years to eke out a mere minority, and the smallest one in history at that, after their crushing defeat in '93. Come back in 2019. If the Liberals still haven't pulled it together by then, you'll have a point.

[Wally_Sconce]

If the liberals hang on to policies like a firearms registry, I'll never vote for them again.

I hope like hell, someone replaces Dion, and starts to rebuild the party.

[Reverend Blair]

Looking at the numbers, it's likely that if an election was called today the Liberals would win a tiny minority. They are in a virtual tie with the Conservatives in the polls, but the Conservatives have hurt themselves in Quebec, Ontario, and the East Coast. They have lost support among women. They have lost support in urban areas.

The Conservatives are also mired in scandal that, due to their own bumbling, is likely to hit the press big time in the fall. Add that to some really bad policy decisions, like cutting arts funding, that plays well in rural Alberta, but not in the areas where the Conservatives need to make gains, and things don't look so sunny for them.

Of course if Harper, after passing legislation for fixed election dates, wants to explain to the Canadian people how he built in a loop-hole he could use for his own political convenience, then I think he should go ahead.

[Wally_Sconce]

more blanket statements without any specifics.

[travior]

$1:

Prime Minister Stephen Harper hinted strongly Thursday that he may do something to trigger an election because Parliament is not functioning anymore.

If that is the trigger for an election we would be voting every other month here in the states.

[Reverend Blair]

Not blanket statements at all, AR, references to polling and media stories over the last several months.

Harper hurt himself badly in Atlantic Canada when he screwed them on the oil deal.
He hurts himself in major centres every time he goes after the arts or culture.
He hurts himself in major centres every time he does nothing about global warming.
He hurt himself in Manitoba and Saskatchewan with the Wheat Board thing.
He hurt himself with women when he cut funding to women's programs.
He's hurting himself, especially in Quebec with the In and Out scandal.
He's had several other scandals that certainly haven't helped him.



I can go on, but you get the picture.

If, after all the noise he made about fixed election dates, he decides to call an election early...and he can likely do so because he built in the loop-hole...without being brought down by the opposition, that's going to hurt him too. Oh, that will fade after the first week of campaigning, but it will still cost him and he can't afford it.

The result is that he's facing the weakest Liberal Party in memory, and he's in a virtual tie with them in the polling. The thing is that if you look at the regional numbers, he's been losing ground in the places he needs to make inroads. He can't win anymore seats in Alberta, after all, he already has all of them. There's a very good chance that he'll lose one or two each in Manitoba and Saskatchewan, he will likely lose three or four in Ontario, he will likely lose two or so in Quebec, and a couple in the Altlantic provinces. He might make gains in BC, but not enough to make up for his losses. Those numbers don't include floor-crossers BTW. Those seats are likely to go back to the party that won them last time.

Now, I'm not claiming that he'll go down in flames the way Mulroney did, but I am saying that the numbers look very much like Dion would win a very tiny minority. If that happens, Canadians are likely to see a much more functional parliament, which will hurt the Conservatives even more.

[mtbr]

Hey RB here is one hot off the press for you

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=726631

Conservatives spent more on cultural programs than Liberals