[commanderkai]

ziggy ziggy:

Alaska's a very long ways from this port. About 12 hours or more if it was a straight flight.
10 hours or more from Winnipeg or Yellowknife to the port in a 737.
But you would never have a straight flight,milk run all the way.

Eh, my Alaska comment is saying that the Americans have it easier with keeping supply lines open, since most of it is land, and not a massive island chain. Heh.

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So it might take you 2 or 5 days because nothing moves fast in the arctic.
And the taxpayers fund the fuel subsidies for up there.
Jet A or B is not available anywhere,you fly it in at enormous costs.
Gravel or sand for concrete costs $1000.00 a bag and their the size of boy scout sand bags.
A bottle of whiskey costs $250.00.

That's my point, wouldn't the Canadian government need to address this issue when they rebuild this military port? I understand what you're saying, believe me. I'm just thinking that WHILE this port gets built, the government will have to decide how to actually keep new fuel and new food and whatever else to go up there, and why would that only benefit the military?

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commanderkai commanderkai:

ziggy ziggy:

Alaska's a very long ways from this port. About 12 hours or more if it was a straight flight.
10 hours or more from Winnipeg or Yellowknife to the port in a 737.
But you would never have a straight flight,milk run all the way.

Eh, my Alaska comment is saying that the Americans have it easier with keeping supply lines open, since most of it is land, and not a massive island chain. Heh.

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So it might take you 2 or 5 days because nothing moves fast in the arctic.
And the taxpayers fund the fuel subsidies for up there.
Jet A or B is not available anywhere,you fly it in at enormous costs.
Gravel or sand for concrete costs $1000.00 a bag and their the size of boy scout sand bags.
A bottle of whiskey costs $250.00.

That's my point, wouldn't the Canadian government need to address this issue when they rebuild this military port? I understand what you're saying, believe me. I'm just thinking that WHILE this port gets built, the government will have to decide how to actually keep new fuel and new food and whatever else to go up there, and why would that only benefit the military?

Thing is the Canadian govt. is very aware of the fuel and food shortage and if they cant fix it after 3 years then how are they going to keep a port supplied? They will but it will just make it look like the shortage and the Innuit have been ignored the last 3 or more years.

You dont know how much of a godsend a deep port is to the folks up there,it's been in all the local papers and referendums were held on if a new one should be built or the old one refurbished.It's the talk of the towns everywhere.

As for resupply,one of the reasons for the shortage is the one company that can run the passage when no one else can cant figure out how to barge up fuel early enough so it doesnt get frozen in hudsons bay or points north of that like they have the last 3 years.When I flew out in february i could count the frozen in barges from the tip of Hudsons to Thompson Manitoba on 2 hands.

People also die when the barges get froze in because they build ice roads out to them and start hauling whatever it has off on the lake and to town and this spring it was an Albertan on a cat who went through and they still havent found his body.

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llama66 llama66:

I dunno how possible highways are in the high arctic with the constant freezing and melting of the permafrost, and the prospect of possible climate change effects.

They are on land,it took Nuna over a year to build Nunavuts longest road over the tundra,100 miles to the meadowbank gold mine.The permafrost rarely melts a few inches under the moss so all you have to do is put 1 meter of fill over the tundra and it stays frozen with little movement.Thats north of churchill,most everything has to be barged from there.

So much water that it takes 5 miles of road to go one mile.A paved highway would be impossible to build.