[Tricks]

DerbyX DerbyX:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

And the usual left-wing pink cowards spout their usual shite.

Response 2.0

C'mon mate, a bit over dramatic isn't it.

Sorry but "soldiers are our best citizens" is just wrong. All it does is play on the emotions and ignore all the rest of us who make society function.

Are they better then doctors? Teachers? Fireman, police, EMTs?

How about the people who simply keep the electricity flowing and the plumbing working?

We all make society work.

Well they ARE better than streaker.... and Kenmore...

[EyeBrock]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

And the usual left-wing pink cowards spout their usual shite.

Oooooooh, scary Eyebrock. Take the pole out of your ass, dipshit, it was a joke.

Nobody laughed.

[DerbyX]

Tricks Tricks:

DerbyX DerbyX:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

And the usual left-wing pink cowards spout their usual shite.

Response 2.0

C'mon mate, a bit over dramatic isn't it.

Sorry but "soldiers are our best citizens" is just wrong. All it does is play on the emotions and ignore all the rest of us who make society function.

Are they better then doctors? Teachers? Fireman, police, EMTs?

How about the people who simply keep the electricity flowing and the plumbing working?

We all make society work.

Well they ARE better than streaker.... and Kenmore...

As opposed to RR and mtbr?

I disagree though. You may not agree with their politics but that doesn't make them less citizens.

[ridenrain]

I wonder if the folks from the disbanded Airborn regiment would agree with you and the Liberal vision of Canada.

[DerbyX]

ridenrain ridenrain:

I wonder if the folks from the disbanded Airborn regiment would agree with you and the Liberal vision of Canada.

I wonder if the folks from the Airborne regiment consider themselves from the Airborn regiment?

I'm not going to pretend that I thought that move was wrong. It was. I will point out that for a gov't in debt and looking to cut programs, a unit displaying outright open hostility towards the governing party (by their admission) and suffering the PR crisis it was certainly did itself no favours.

The problem always is you point to every single Liberal military failing (even those justified) while ignoring the CPCs.

You consider the 93 Liberals to be military traitors because they didn't commit more money to the military then you are currently lauding from Harper.

Harper has vastly more money to put into the military yet all we hear are broken promises, lack of fuel reports, no SAR aircraft and reports that 3 of 3 expensive aircraft are sitting on the tramac.

You are a hypocrite who went from crucifying the Liberals for lack of military spending (when they had no money to do so) to supporting Harpers tightening the purse strings when he has loads on money to do so.

Chretien cut the military budget to defeat the deficit.

Harper is doing so because he wants to cut taxes and win votes.

[Zipperfish]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

And the usual left-wing pink cowards spout their usual shite.

Oooooooh, scary Eyebrock. Take the pole out of your ass, dipshit, it was a joke.

Nobody laughed.

Well, no offence, but you don't strike me as a guy with much of a sense of humour.

Look, nobody here doubts that you hold yourself in very high opinion, if that's what you're trying to get across.

[djakeydd]

kenmore kenmore:

ridenrain ridenrain:

'Our soldiers are our best citizens': MacKay


Here, here!
Kick those smelly hippies to the curb!

MacKay is such a nut licker.. he is looking for votes..
The so called "war" created by the Bush family is a fucking waste of time and Canadian tax dollars.. Military do a great job.. no doubt or question of that.. so do police and firefighters, but they are no better citizens than you and I... yes I included you.. this is just propaganda by the feeble member from Nova Scotia hoping to pick up the military vote... lots of luck there eh?

Boy have you got it right! Mackay is as big a lickspittle jackass as they come, just ask Belinda. That guy is such a loser and to try to patronize for support with this type of statement is (like him) totally disgusting and repugnant. I simply cannot believe anyone would fall for this garbage, how stupid does he think Canadians are

ps, instead of the "bush family" I would term it the bush crime syndicate.

[sandorski]

Perhaps "Best" is a poor term to use. "Amongst the Best" I would certainly agree with.

[ridenrain]

DerbyX DerbyX:

ridenrain ridenrain:

I wonder if the folks from the disbanded Airborn regiment would agree with you and the Liberal vision of Canada.

I wonder if the folks from the Airborne regiment consider themselves from the Airborn regiment?

I'm not going to pretend that I thought that move was wrong. It was. I will point out that for a gov't in debt and looking to cut programs, a unit displaying outright open hostility towards the governing party (by their admission) and suffering the PR crisis it was certainly did itself no favours.

The problem always is you point to every single Liberal military failing (even those justified) while ignoring the CPCs.

You consider the 93 Liberals to be military traitors because they didn't commit more money to the military then you are currently lauding from Harper.

Harper has vastly more money to put into the military yet all we hear are broken promises, lack of fuel reports, no SAR aircraft and reports that 3 of 3 expensive aircraft are sitting on the tramac.

You are a hypocrite who went from crucifying the Liberals for lack of military spending (when they had no money to do so) to supporting Harpers tightening the purse strings when he has loads on money to do so.

Chretien cut the military budget to defeat the deficit.

Harper is doing so because he wants to cut taxes and win votes.

That's just you're charactor assasination of me. As I have praised Chretin for doing the right thing by putting us into the justified and legal NATO fight in Afghanistan, other Liberals have stood up and done the right thing on a number of issues too. It's just that party loyalty prevents them from voting or speaking out, and this is a problem that affects all parties also. The original plan was well done and the balance of support and force was correct.

We play party games with defence spending and I'd like to see that ended but that's how the system works in Ottawa. Liberals now want a larger navy so they can cash in on the "support the troops" line but not support the war in Afghanistan. The CPC must work hard to ensure the war in Afghanistan succeeds so they want army funding. The bottom line is what matters is the mission and since it was developed by both parties, it should be supported by both parties.
I wish Canadians were more partriotic like the Brits and that we could stop playing political games when bigger tasks are at hand.

I imagine that anyone from the Airborn ever forgets or regrets becomming the best of the best. Politics and political corectness aside, they were the best at what they did and if people didn't like what they did then they haven't a clue what an army is.

[DerbyX]

$1:

That's just you're charactor assasination of me. As I have praised Chretin for doing the right thing by putting us into the justified and legal NATO fight in Afghanistan, other Liberals have stood up and done the right thing on a number of issues too. It's just that party loyalty prevents them from voting or speaking out, and this is a problem that affects all parties also. The original plan was well done and the balance of support and force was correct.

Bolloxs. Nobody supporting the deployment would seek at all costs to lay all responsibility on Chretien. You would post about it being Canadas war and actually show a spine and not post partisanly. You don't.

Your hack response just confirms your desire to control peoples lives and shows you have no understanding of any event leading to the present situation. Your BS posts makes people understand that you think Afghanistan popped into existence 3 days befor we invaded.

You have no understanding of the situation and care nothing about the people as evidenced by how you post about the most cherished beliefs.

$1:

We play party games with defence spending and I'd like to see that ended but that's how the system works in Ottawa. Liberals now want a larger navy so they can cash in on the "support the troops" line but not support the war in Afghanistan. The CPC must work hard to ensure the war in Afghanistan succeeds so they want army funding. The bottom line is what matters is the mission and since it was developed by both parties, it should be supported by both parties.
I wish Canadians were more partriotic like the Brits and that we could stop playing political games when bigger tasks are at hand.

I imagine that anyone from the Airborn ever forgets or regrets becomming the best of the best. Politics and political corectness aside, they were the best at what they did and if people didn't like what they did then they haven't a clue what an army is.

Airborne. Airborne.

The bottome line is you have no clue about anything. You think you can dictate policy to them and force them to support your political views.

Brave words for somebody sitting at home expecting other people to enforce his morals on other people.

[ridenrain]

I post a resonable answer and you lapse back into hollow rhetoric.
You refuse to deal with the topics at hand and return to you're broad brush slander campaign.

[DerbyX]

ridenrain ridenrain:

I post a resonable answer and you lapse back into hollow rhetoric.
You refuse to deal with the topics at hand and return to you're broad brush slander campaign.

You have never ever dealt with any topic at hand.

You only ever bitch about Dions comments and never deal with the realities behind your assesment.

You have no understanding of the conflict nor any understaning of what precipitated it.

You have no understanding of why we are having problems with islam and why we won't win in Afghanistan because of it.

You have no understanding of the broad implications of us supporting Iraq by proxy and have no understanding of the world in general.

All you have is the usual con belief that your own beliefs are superior and gives you the right to enforce your position on drugs, prostitution, religion, politics and whatever else we can think of on everybody.

You cannot support our invasion of afghanistan through any reasonable argument so you are forced to resort to some BS emotional argument about us fighting the darkness all the while the people you support rape boys by the boatload.

You have no historical knowledge and thats made worse by your disgusting politcal values which ignores everything but what you want to see.

That sums it all up nicely.

[ridenrain]

So you believe that you'll win these discussions by constantly attacking me and those you disagree with? You almost got the last word in and that, as all master debaters know, is truely the winning move of a debate.

As for you're usual style.. Msutang should grace us soon, amd with a wave of his hand, dismiss all and pronounce us all stupid, while you will continue to crow about how you have won.


I'll just leave this hanging so you can get in the last word like I predicted.

[DerbyX]

ridenrain ridenrain:

So you believe that you'll win these discussions by constantly attacking me and those you disagree with? You almost got the last word in and that, as all master debaters know, is truely the winning move of a debate.

As for you're usual style.. Msutang should grace us soon, amd with a wave of his hand, dismiss all and pronounce us all stupid, while you will continue to crow about how you have won.


I'll just leave this hanging so you can get in the last word like I predicted.

Good. The problem is that Mustang1 earned his medal. Its not his fault you are such a pllitical hack and piss-poor debator that you never get any A-game material.

Just like here, you never once responded on any point by simply complained that I was pointing out you obviously partisan behaviour.

You have been outmatched by me in every debate we ever had even when you get supported by perrenial fuckwits ar and mtbr.

You only ever post partisan attacks and thus eliminate any reasonable debate from word one. You cannot seperate the argument form your inherent need to simply blame the Liberals regardless which is why any debate about afghanistan with you always include you blaming Chretien for the entire war and Dion for every single ally thinking military intervention in pakistan is neccessary.

Witness my debate with Scape.

All you ever do is tie all discussion into a blame the Liberals and the left angle and thus all you ever get is that in return.

You are a piss-poor debator who seeks only to facilitate his anti-Liberal jihad at every turn.

[ridenrain]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Tricks Tricks:

Wrong thread?

Geez you are right. I got 3 threads going at once.

I need more beer.

Yeah.. you started this thread off so well.