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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:13 pm
ryan29 ryan29: DerbyX DerbyX: dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno: How convenient is it that this story revolves around some one who has passed away and can't be questioned. Cadman himself denied the allegations when he was alive, isn’t that enough? I am so sick of these bullshit stories and allegations trying to paint Harper as corrupt. If they have proof then lets see it! Oh I forgot, the guy is dead so I guess we'll never really know. I’m starting to think Dion is aspiring to be the next Scooby Doo. If the man spent half the time he does on running his party as he does on trying to dig up dirt on Harper maybe his party wouldn’t in the sad state it is. Simply pathetic. Dion has nothing at all to do with it. Its his widow that the evidence comes from, evidence that greatly exceeds whatever BS you cons tried to pin on Chretien or Martin. evidence you only wish there was evidence . where is the copy on this insurance contract ? , where are the tape recordings of this offer ? , what insurance company was supposedly willing to give a million dollar policy to someone terminaly ill ? , i'd really like to know what actual evidence there is on this claim . i guess we will have to buy the book or is that the authors plan to get rich ?
Yeah, no evidence.  Everybody agrees that meetings took place with the idea to get him back with the CPC. His widow testified that he was furious about the bribe attempt and Cadman himself obviously didn't stand with Harper that day. He stood with the Liberals.
Yet there is no evidence but apparently despite not a single person saying Dion and the Liberals are involved there is obviously enough evidence to convict them of cooking this whole scheme up eh?
Your corrupt party tried to bribe a dying man and all you brainwashed cons are doing is your classic D3S attack.
Pathetic.
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ryan29
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:16 pm
Benoit Benoit: dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno: How convenient is it that this story revolves around some one who has passed away and can't be questioned. Cadman himself denied the allegations when he was alive, isn’t that enough? I am so sick of these bullshit stories and allegations trying to paint Harper as corrupt. No it's not enough, Cadman was sick when he denied.
but he still did deny the allegations , that cannot be denied . so how can they prove he was offered anything illegal if he denied he was offered anything ?
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:18 pm
I want to know which insurance company the conservatives deal with!.....If they're mine they better not try to up any of my rates for anything
Give a dying man an insurance policy 
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Benoit
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:21 pm
ryan29 ryan29: Benoit Benoit: dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno: How convenient is it that this story revolves around some one who has passed away and can't be questioned. Cadman himself denied the allegations when he was alive, isn’t that enough? I am so sick of these bullshit stories and allegations trying to paint Harper as corrupt. No it's not enough, Cadman was sick when he denied. but he still did deny the allegations , that cannot be denied . so how can they prove he was offered anything illegal if he denied he was offered anything ?
By having an expert witness testify on the effects of the drugs he was probably taking on judgment.
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ryan29
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:22 pm
lily lily: $1: where are the tape recordings of this offer ?
Would that make a difference to you? I'm thinking Grewal here.....
not sure , its just if there tryign to prove an offer was made shouldn't they show soem evidence of the people making the offer ?
mean the late mp isn't going to be able to testify or give evidence to prove this and his wife would basically ruin relations with the party if she did , so i'm not coinvince this is going to go anywhere unless someone presnets serious proof it happened .
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:23 pm
All I know is that the vote was on the 19th and the 'meeting' was on the 17th. If the widow is saying there was an offer then she should be heard out. I find it odd she would be harpooning the very party she wants to join. I am curious as to her motivation.
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ryan29
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:26 pm
Benoit Benoit: ryan29 ryan29: Benoit Benoit: dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno: How convenient is it that this story revolves around some one who has passed away and can't be questioned. Cadman himself denied the allegations when he was alive, isn’t that enough? I am so sick of these bullshit stories and allegations trying to paint Harper as corrupt. No it's not enough, Cadman was sick when he denied. but he still did deny the allegations , that cannot be denied . so how can they prove he was offered anything illegal if he denied he was offered anything ? By having an expert witness testify on the effects of the drugs he was probably taking on judgment. \
they have him on tape as he is walking into the house saying nothing was offered what more do you want ?
if he was capable of voting in budget how could his judgement be in question ?
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:26 pm
Scape Scape: All I know is that the vote was on the 19th and the 'meeting' was on the 17th. If the widow is saying there was an offer then she should be heard out. I find it odd she would be harpooning the very party she wants to join. I am curious as to her motivation.
If you go to CTV NEws http://www.ctv.ca/news click on to Robert Fifes report you can hear Dona Cadman......sounds odd to me.
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:27 pm
DerbyX DerbyX: dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno: How convenient is it that this story revolves around some one who has passed away and can't be questioned. Cadman himself denied the allegations when he was alive, isn’t that enough? I am so sick of these bullshit stories and allegations trying to paint Harper as corrupt. If they have proof then lets see it! Oh I forgot, the guy is dead so I guess we'll never really know. I’m starting to think Dion is aspiring to be the next Scooby Doo. If the man spent half the time he does on running his party as he does on trying to dig up dirt on Harper maybe his party wouldn’t in the sad state it is. Simply pathetic. Dion has nothing at all to do with it. i agree. DerbyX DerbyX: Its his widow that the evidence comes from, evidence that greatly exceeds whatever BS you cons tried to pin on Chretien or Martin.
Well its not evidence yet, for now its here say.
Secondly it came from a journalist who wrote a "Cadman" book that was released yesterday.
Time will tell ....
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Benoit
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:29 pm
Scape Scape: All I know is that the vote was on the 19th and the 'meeting' was on the 17th. If the widow is saying there was an offer then she should be heard out. I find it odd she would be harpooning the very party she wants to join. I am curious as to her motivation.
A court would have also to be curious about the motivation of Tom Zytaruk.
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ridenrain
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:30 pm
HAHA. Sorry Derby.
I guess those guys who visited Cadman were just some more of those "rogue bureaucrats" that were so popular during ADSCAM.
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:33 pm
Bodah Bodah: DerbyX DerbyX: dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno: How convenient is it that this story revolves around some one who has passed away and can't be questioned. Cadman himself denied the allegations when he was alive, isn’t that enough? I am so sick of these bullshit stories and allegations trying to paint Harper as corrupt. If they have proof then lets see it! Oh I forgot, the guy is dead so I guess we'll never really know. I’m starting to think Dion is aspiring to be the next Scooby Doo. If the man spent half the time he does on running his party as he does on trying to dig up dirt on Harper maybe his party wouldn’t in the sad state it is. Simply pathetic. Dion has nothing at all to do with it. i agree. DerbyX DerbyX: Its his widow that the evidence comes from, evidence that greatly exceeds whatever BS you cons tried to pin on Chretien or Martin. Well its not evidence yet, for now its here say. Secondly it came from a journalist who wrote a "Cadman" book that was released yesterday. Time will tell ....
Did you not click on mtbrs link showing that Donna Cadman was standing by her story?
His widow is the source and quite frankly this evidence is far greater then you guys would demand if the slur were against the Libs.
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:33 pm
DerbyX DerbyX: dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno: How convenient is it that this story revolves around some one who has passed away and can't be questioned. Cadman himself denied the allegations when he was alive, isn’t that enough? I am so sick of these bullshit stories and allegations trying to paint Harper as corrupt. If they have proof then lets see it! Oh I forgot, the guy is dead so I guess we'll never really know. I’m starting to think Dion is aspiring to be the next Scooby Doo. If the man spent half the time he does on running his party as he does on trying to dig up dirt on Harper maybe his party wouldn’t in the sad state it is. Simply pathetic. Dion has nothing at all to do with it. Its his widow that the evidence comes from, evidence that greatly exceeds whatever BS you cons tried to pin on Chretien or Martin.  $1: Liberal Leader Stephane Dion asks Harper about the allegations that party agents offered inducements to Chuck Cadman before a vote that could have toppled the former Liberal government in May 2005, during question period in Ottawa on Thursday, Feb. 28, 2008. (Tom Hanson / THE CANADIAN PRESS)
Maybe Dion should have waited to find out the facts before he got up in commons then.
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:34 pm
ridenrain ridenrain: HAHA. Sorry Derby. I guess those guys who visited Cadman were just some more of those "rogue bureaucrats" that were so popular during ADSCAM.
His widow stands by her story.
Sorry for your luck. 
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ryan29
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:34 pm
DerbyX DerbyX: ryan29 ryan29: DerbyX DerbyX: dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno: How convenient is it that this story revolves around some one who has passed away and can't be questioned. Cadman himself denied the allegations when he was alive, isn’t that enough? I am so sick of these bullshit stories and allegations trying to paint Harper as corrupt. If they have proof then lets see it! Oh I forgot, the guy is dead so I guess we'll never really know. I’m starting to think Dion is aspiring to be the next Scooby Doo. If the man spent half the time he does on running his party as he does on trying to dig up dirt on Harper maybe his party wouldn’t in the sad state it is. Simply pathetic. Dion has nothing at all to do with it. Its his widow that the evidence comes from, evidence that greatly exceeds whatever BS you cons tried to pin on Chretien or Martin. evidence you only wish there was evidence . where is the copy on this insurance contract ? , where are the tape recordings of this offer ? , what insurance company was supposedly willing to give a million dollar policy to someone terminaly ill ? , i'd really like to know what actual evidence there is on this claim . i guess we will have to buy the book or is that the authors plan to get rich ? Yeah, no evidence.  Everybody agrees that meetings took place with the idea to get him back with the CPC. His widow testified that he was furious about the bribe attempt and Cadman himself obviously didn't stand with Harper that day. He stood with the Liberals. Yet there is no evidence but apparently despite not a single person saying Dion and the Liberals are involved there is obviously enough evidence to convict them of cooking this whole scheme up eh? Your corrupt party tried to bribe a dying man and all you brainwashed cons are doing is your classic D3S attack. Pathetic.
i never said dion made the story up , some writer has wrote the book . its his claim not the liberals . as for the media they have jumped on it as expected .
but there is still not really any proof , if they want to make such serious claims then start showing some proof .
as for the widow i hope she was genuine when she decided to seek the cpc nomination and not out to cause trouble . cause this is starting to get a little odd .
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