[Bacardi4206]

Oh wait, yeah nvm I know what you are talking about. My mind was blanc for a second on that. Coal is the cheapest and easiest way for that, and most commonly used yea. But because of people like Al Gore and his movie. People are stepping up on changing our ways, take cars. Half Electric, half gas and which will soon be run by corn for the gas side.

Countries are also finding better ways to produce electricity so we can soon get rid of coal versions. The best one IMO would be water, I read a show on it and it said that it generates a lot more energy then any other way. So I am going to assume that it will be more commonly active in the near future.

Soon electricity won't be polutant, and neither will be gas. All thanks to the "idiot Al Gore" who started people on this.

[ManifestDestiny]

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

Oh wait, yeah nvm I know what you are talking about. My mind was blanc for a second on that. Coal is the cheapest and easiest way for that, and most commonly used yea. But because of people like Al Gore and his movie. People are stepping up on changing our ways, take cars. Half Electric, half gas and which will soon be run by corn for the gas side.

Countries are also finding better ways to produce electricity so we can soon get rid of coal versions. The best one IMO would be water, I read a show on it and it said that it generates a lot more energy then any other way. So I am going to assume that it will be more commonly active in the near future.

Soon electricity won't be polutant, and neither will be gas. All thanks to the "idiot Al Gore" who started people on this.

Water has been used for years its old hat and the best way to do it is to build dams which ruins the eviorment in other ways. And there is only so much we can harness with the existing water we have.

Nuke power is the best way.

But coal is around for a long time to come.

And these hybrid cars are also a buch of feel good crap. they suck above 45 mph. so you dont need to be a einstien to figure that out. just in case (how many places do you drive below 45)

using corn as fuel has other bad aspects people still have to eat.

[Bacardi4206]

Not this way, They stick stations in really wavy waters where its really rough. The hard waves, currents or whatever it was generates a lot more energy then anything we current produce. Also it doesn't polute because it's just natural waves.

No damns involved.

[PluggyRug]

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

Oh wait, yeah nvm I know what you are talking about. My mind was blanc for a second on that. Coal is the cheapest and easiest way for that, and most commonly used yea. But because of people like Al Gore and his movie. People are stepping up on changing our ways, take cars. Half Electric, half gas and which will soon be run by corn for the gas side.

Countries are also finding better ways to produce electricity so we can soon get rid of coal versions. The best one IMO would be water, I read a show on it and it said that it generates a lot more energy then any other way. So I am going to assume that it will be more commonly active in the near future.

Soon electricity won't be polutant, and neither will be gas. All thanks to the "idiot Al Gore" who started people on this.

China is building new coal fired power stations every week.

There is currently no way to generate electrickery without some form of downside. Al Gore has done nothing. The problems with pollutants (which CO2 is not) has been around for 100's of years....and...people knew it.

The so called "green" cars use more energy in their production than conventional cars and are no more energy neutral than your average gas vehicles.

Think about every time you plug in your "green" car to charge the inefficient batteries, more crap is emitted from some coal fired power stations smokestack.

[ShepherdsDog]

Nuke China.....save the Earth. A cleaner environment and fewer animals on the enangered animals list.

[sasquatch2]

Bacardi4206

$1:

Coal Powered? Hmm, never heard of that. Where did you find that out?

I am not going to ridicule or insult. Your post is intensely enlightening as it illustrates the phenomina that Gore/Suzuki have exploited so successfully with their little hoax. In our discussion of the AGW thingy we have overlooked that what we assumed was general knowledge is not.
I am at a loss as to how CO2 AGW is a causal agent for earth-quakes, and vulcanism---unless the Gaia theory is advanced.
One thing I will take Bacardi to task for----How does this discovery of an active vulcano under the Ice vindicate Al Gore?
I tripped over some charts of Antarctica earlier which showed Antarctic Ice limits in 1979 and compared to 2007....40% more extent....although I had heard earlier representations that Antarctica had been cooling for 30 years I did find this somewhat surprising. Apparently the warmest the interior of antarctica gets is -30C---hardly melting.

http://nsidc.org/cgi-bin/wist/wist.pl?a ... s=no_panel]National%20snow%20and%20ice%20center]

[fire_i]

mtbr mtbr:

fire_i fire_i:

mtbr mtbr:

Geothermal activity under the ice....I doubt it!

Hmm. Why?

[Bacardi4206]

Perhaps sasquash, you should read the entire posts and not just find one that you can point out and go with it. I stated that I forgot about that, and I knew what he was talking about later on (Couple minutes after he posted).

Again, I never stated that these valano's indicated Gore. I never even made a connection between the two. Read my posts and don't make assumtions.

I responded to somebody's posts about Melting Polar Bears, which sounded like a crack against Global Warming, Al Gore Believers. So I decided to respond to that.

Pluggyrug, have you not read anything I stated though? What China does now does not reflect on the entire world, just because China does it does not mean the entire world follows. As I said, countries are developing new ways to get energy that is less harmful. There are harmful ways now, but that doesn't mean there will be in the future. The thing I was talking about is one of them. If a electric company had a solution that produced more energy, wouldn't you think they would go for it? I would, the thing I was talking about (That I saw in a show/documentry) stated that it produced more energy then the ways we are currently getting it.

Though I know how you skeptics are about documenterys, Wouldn't be suprised if you bashed it or denied it.

Personally, you can call Al Gore whatever you wish. In my oppinion he is none of it, his information may be false regarding his movie although I take his information more creditable then skeptics. He has however started everybody in the pace of REALLY attempting to make all our habits more earth friendly. Inventions don't just pop out of nowhere, so obviously there isn't going to be a solution that will be of great change to our envirement any time soon but atleast people are making a attempt to do it.

Also Sasquash, where in my post did I state CO2 was the cause for earthquakes or vulano's? I was talking about Global Warming Inventions that were set in place to be more earth friendly due to the whole Global Warming panic provided by Al Gore. I don't see how that ties with me saying any of that? Though you did the same thing in the other global warming topics, just completly put words in other people's mouths.

[DrCaleb]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

They run on these medium sized battery things, you just slip them in and they are ready to go. I believe there rechargable as well.

Yes but the batteries do not charge themselves.

Electricity needs to be generated. No such thing as free energy.

Do not some types of power stations add pollutants into the atmosphere.

Power for that kind of mower comes from ethanol based malted barley. At least, that's where mine gets it.

[BartSimpson]

mtbr mtbr:

"Much higher up the course of the glacier there is evidence of a volcano that erupted through the ice about 2,000 years ago and the whole region could be volcanically active, releasing geothermal heat to melt the base of the ice and help its slide towards the sea."

Geothermal activity under the ice....I doubt it!

Yep - jokulhaups.

[hurley_108]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

They run on these medium sized battery things, you just slip them in and they are ready to go. I believe there rechargable as well.

Yes but the batteries do not charge themselves.

Electricity needs to be generated. No such thing as free energy.

Do not some types of power stations add pollutants into the atmosphere.

Power for that kind of mower comes from ethanol based malted barley. At least, that's where mine gets it.

Mine too, except that I usually fill the tank after using the mower, not before.

[sasquatch2]

Bacardi4206

$1:

Also Sasquash, where in my post did I state CO2 was the cause for earthquakes or vulano's?

$1:

Lol, if Al Gore is right about this whole thing. I am so going to laugh my ass off at all the Anti-Global Warming people. My first job would be creating mass Bumper Stickers labeling "Fucking over Humanity, one skepticism story at a time".

If Al Gore's wrong, worst that would happen is I can create a Bumper Sticker labeling I am a idiot and give it to myself and the majority of Global Warming believers and atleast the world wouldn't be fucking over.
Though there are many plus sides to the Global Warming theory.

Don't attempt to squirm out of making this reference to the article without qualification.
Al Gores' sci-fi movie was such a travesty--it does not deserve the lable of documantary---BTW Lake Agassiz drained down the Mississippi not the St Lawrence as GORE CLEARLY STATED.
Antarctica is clearly not melting from alleged GW----30C doesn't melt much....

[Bacardi4206]

Hmm, well let me say this a second time then. My post was regarding to a comment made by somebody that sounded like a bash against Global Warming believers, my post was directed to that. You should have probally included his quote into that, because without it, you can bend it any way you wish to make it look you are right.

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

ziggy ziggy:

It's all those melting polar bears.

Lol, if Al Gore is right about this whole thing. I am so going to laugh my ass off at all the Anti-Global Warming people. My first job would be creating mass Bumper Stickers labeling "Fucking over Humanity, one skepticism story at a time".

Though obviously by quoting that post, I am talking about Valcano's
. You are completly right

[sasquatch2]

This from a guy who didn't seem aware that coal-fired generators are the world's primary sources of electricity.
I suppose you think naticoke is a wind-farm....

[PluggyRug]

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

Pluggyrug, have you not read anything I stated though?

Absolutely, and that is why I made an attempt to address the errors in your post/s.

Please understand that energy in, is equal to energy out, less standard losses such as friction, heat etc.

China is currently the worlds largest polluter.

I repeat...the electric lawn mower still requires generated electrickery provided by power stations, a lot of which are coal fired.


You need to be working on the design and production of a zero point energy device, but that would require the assistance of SG1.