[PluggyRug]

[quote="kenmore"]Actually ridenrain.. both Chretien and Martin did not want to go to Afghanistan and Martin can be quoted saying so. they both felt it was too costly and not worth the money or military lives.. they were sucked in as is Harper by the US..... part of an interview quote from Martin,,,Martin reveals he was unenthusiastic about Hillier’s proposal to deploy forces to Kandahar to repair Canada’s relationship with the U.S. and had other priorities for Canada’s resources.

“Afghanistan was not a priority for me the way Darfur, Haiti and the Middle East were,â€

[Wally_Sconce]

kenmore kenmore:

well we all know the Republicans (tories)are willing to have canada stay there for 100 yrs..I suspect that is a promise they wouldnt want to break so why make it.

Well we all know the flip flopping arseholes ( Liberals) are willing to have canadian soldiers go off to war with a hammer, and a stop watch.

[ridenrain]

Here's some more cut & paste for you:

$1:

The Afghanistan Compact, the successor to the Bonn Agreement, provides the framework for international community engagement in Afghanistan for the next five years. It was developed during a conference held in London from January 31 to February 1, 2006. Representatives from the international community, including Canada, attended the conference, which was co-chaired by Afghanistan, the United Nations and the United Kingdom.
At the conference, Canada pledged its full support and was instrumental in ensuring that the Compact included a mechanism to monitor programs and promote forward momentum.
The Compact sets out detailed outcomes, benchmarks, timelines for delivery and mutual obligations that aim to ensure greater coherence of efforts between the Afghan government and the international community.
The Compact seeks to build lasting Afghan capacity and effective state and civil society institutions, with particular emphasis on building up the human capacities of both men and women. It identifies three critical and interdependent areas of activity for the period 2006-2011:

"The Liberal governments committed the Canadian military until 2011. In addition, it was the Liberal government of Paul Martin who chose Kandahar and did not include any caveats in their agreement. The governments responsible for these actions were Liberal governments and Mr. Dion was a part of both those governments."

http://www.canada-afghanistan.gc.ca/cip ... nds-en.asp


The only thing that has changed is the Government of Canada, so why is this mission now bad for Canada? Stop playing politics and get on with what you signed up for.

[uwish]

I can't believe I am hearing someone defend mr dithers!

He and his predecessor were buffoons! "And you must have the capacity for Haiti if that blows up again." coming from the clowns that continuously cut the defence department to the breaking point over 13 years so they could spend BILLIONS on HR and gun registry disasters

They both should be in jail.

[sasquatch2]

ridenrain

$1:

The only thing that has changed is the Government of Canada, so why is this mission now bad for Canada?

Is that a rhetorical question.

Actually it points to one of the many dillusions that LIBRANOs have beside AGW---that although they lost the last election they will win the next. Their fantasy is that the LIBRANOs are the natural governing party-----and the majority of canadians support them unconditionally.

[kenmore]

well listen up all you armchair war mongering soldiers....ITS A FUCKING WASTE OF TIME AND ITS BEEN GOING ON FOR CENTURIES... IF YOU REALLY NEED TO SATISFY YOUR NEED TO KILL BUY AN XBOX

[uwish]

I don't appreciate being called an armchair soldier, I wore the CF uniform for 10 years have you?

next time you want to spout off about what you know not of do it somewhere else and don't insult those who have worn the uniform for this nation.

[Johnny_Utah]

kenmore kenmore:

well that sounds nice but we could be there for a 100 fucking years.. you people dont seem to get it .. its a no win situation.. we can bust our balls there and it wont make a diddly bit of difference...we can spend our hard earned cash and donate lives. but fact is its a muslim state and they could very well turn around and thank us by blowing up the very people who helped them.. they dont respect non muslims... wake up and smell the fucking coffee...

You're a God-damn Hypocrite because if the Liberals were in power you wouldn't be bitching right now. Since their not in power you want Canada to Cut & Run so it hurts Harper politically, you want this at the cost of Canada's reputation and the sacrifices already made by Canadian Soldiers made in vain..

Canada isn't going to be there for a 100 years, that's what John McCain said about Iraq which shows how pathetic and slow you are..

[ridenrain]

Johnny_Utah Johnny_Utah:

kenmore kenmore:

well that sounds nice but we could be there for a 100 fucking years.. you people dont seem to get it .. its a no win situation.. we can bust our balls there and it wont make a diddly bit of difference...we can spend our hard earned cash and donate lives. but fact is its a muslim state and they could very well turn around and thank us by blowing up the very people who helped them.. they dont respect non muslims... wake up and smell the fucking coffee...

You're a God-damn Hypocrite because if the Liberals were in power you wouldn't be bitching right now. Since their not in power you want Canada to Cut & Run so it hurts Harper politically, you want this at the cost of Canada's reputation and the sacrifices already made by Canadian Soldiers made in vain..

Canada isn't going to be there for a 100 years, that's what John McCain said about Iraq which shows how pathetic and slow you are..

I quite agree.
This is the one reason I hate unprincipled dirtbag parties like the Liberals so much.
Every platform or position they have can be bought and sold for votes.

[Johnny_Utah]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Johnny_Utah Johnny_Utah:

kenmore kenmore:

well that sounds nice but we could be there for a 100 fucking years.. you people dont seem to get it .. its a no win situation.. we can bust our balls there and it wont make a diddly bit of difference...we can spend our hard earned cash and donate lives. but fact is its a muslim state and they could very well turn around and thank us by blowing up the very people who helped them.. they dont respect non muslims... wake up and smell the fucking coffee...

You're a God-damn Hypocrite because if the Liberals were in power you wouldn't be bitching right now. Since their not in power you want Canada to Cut & Run so it hurts Harper politically, you want this at the cost of Canada's reputation and the sacrifices already made by Canadian Soldiers made in vain..

Canada isn't going to be there for a 100 years, that's what John McCain said about Iraq which shows how pathetic and slow you are..

I quite agree.
This is the one reason I hate unprincipled dirtbag parties like the Liberals so much.
Every platform or position they have can be bought and sold for votes.

Harper doesn't go by polls as he's ready to put his Government on the line for the Mission in Afghanistan because he believes in what Canada is doing while the same can't be said about Dion and the Liberals because they govern by polls..

Dion and the Liberals would support the Mission in Afghanistan is the polls showed more support, since they don't their against the Mission which they started in the first place, they are the ultimate panders..

The Liberals and NDP ignored the Manley report regarding the Media's coverage because the bias coverage and polls plays into their hands politically..

The Liberals bitch Harper started the Combat Mission, well what did they expect would happen in Afghanistan? They would rather have Canadian Soldiers carry a Hammer, they are so naive like the NDP they believe if Canada was in a non Combat Role they wouldn't be attacked while the reality is any sign of progress in Afghanistan is a target..

[kenmore]

sorry but I would bitch no matter who was in power when it comes to this war... in MY OPINION...its a waste of money and time.. Afghanistan has been involved in war and occupation by various countries since 1757.. the Brits abandonded it after WW11 and the russians..so why is everybody gunho in Canada to spend our fucking tax dollars on a lost cause.. its not that our troups dont make a difference... its that the difference isnt going to make it... sorry my opinion isnt the same as your Johnny Utah.. I would suspect you are a republican american bush lover.. but thats your choice..

[kenmore]

actually according to todays paper he and M.Dion have come to an agreement on the Afghan issue... the next item on the bring em down agenda is the budget... harper isnt putting anything on the line.. he has to make the move...he cant continue to govern with the threat of one party or the other bringing him down.. he is doing what is called political maneuvering..

[kenmore]

just read your profile johnny-utah... explains alot ... exactly which right wing religious cult do you belong to.? and what are you going to do when your countrymen kick the republicans out on their selfrightous asses.

[Johnny_Utah]

kenmore kenmore:

just read your profile johnny-utah... explains alot ... exactly which right wing religious cult do you belong to.? and what are you going to do when your countrymen kick the republicans out on their selfrightous asses.

You read my profile? Do you read the profiles of everyone who kicks you're ass?

I'm a Republican so I must belong to a religious cult! Could you be anymore pathetic Kenmore? I don't need to read you're profile as I just have to look in the Sears catalouge and see all the Kenmore crap Sears sells!

Kenmore, Jesus why didn't you choose May-Tag for a name? Then again Kenmore's are worthless pieces of shit which suits you..

Now if you'll excuse me I have to get ready for my Right Wing Religious Cult Meeting........Scientology..

My countrymen as you put it will elect Barrack Obama, if anyone's self righteous it's Liberal Trolls like you!

[kenmore]

your profile didnt give your birth date... have you reached puberty yet?
and I wonder what or why you would be expressing your right wing agenda on a CANADIAN SITE..