[hurley_108]

$1:

Web posts spark RCMP probe, free speech debate

Does freedom of speech protect advocating the killing of others?

[fifeboy]

SprCForr SprCForr:

He's not a kid. He's in his mid-20's and that makes him most certainly an adult.

The solution to the problem is easy and certainly low to no risk:

Make a complaint to the Human Rights Commission.

OK, I missed the age the age thing. There must be something in the law to deal with this. If I went to my neighbour and told her I hoped someone would kill her?? Wouldn't there be something there be something that could be done?

[Arctic_Menace]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

$1:

Web posts spark RCMP probe, free speech debate

Does freedom of speech protect advocating the killing of others?

If that were true, then people would have no problem talking about the holocaust and how right it was...

[BartSimpson]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

Does freedom of speech protect advocating the killing of others?

In some circumstances, yes. In others, no.

I'll give you credit for raising that aspect of the issue. So far as this has gone what the kids has said is just his opinions and he may not have actually done anything past posting his opinions on this matter on the net.

Now, if he is found to have sent an email to someone who might well carry out his opinions then that is a different matter.

For instance, I am not fan of George Soros and have been known to post my opinion that it would be nice if some nutbag offed him.

That's protected speech.

But if I sent an email to you asking you to off him, that would be an incitement to murder and would be prosecutable.

Very slight differences in the nuances of speech make one sentiment protected and the other prosecuted.

Kudos to you for the observation.

[martin14]

Canada's Anti-Terrorism Act (ATA) does not specifically outlaw incitement of terrorism, although such a measure has been discussed by MPs.

Jesus H Fucking Christ.. are we really that stupid.

Please feel free to send this to your MP...

Included the reform of the ATA, please include a clause
in which not only does the person convicted of inciting murder,
but the rest of their goddamn family can go too..

we will strip them of whatever Canadian identity they may have had,
give them brand new Antarctic documentation, plus a one way ticket for all of them.

[hurley_108]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

hurley_108 hurley_108:

Does freedom of speech protect advocating the killing of others?

In some circumstances, yes. In others, no.

I'll give you credit for raising that aspect of the issue. So far as this has gone what the kids has said is just his opinions and he may not have actually done anything past posting his opinions on this matter on the net.

Now, if he is found to have sent an email to someone who might well carry out his opinions then that is a different matter.

For instance, I am not fan of George Soros and have been known to post my opinion that it would be nice if some nutbag offed him.

That's protected speech.

But if I sent an email to you asking you to off him, that would be an incitement to murder and would be prosecutable.

Very slight differences in the nuances of speech make one sentiment protected and the other prosecuted.

Kudos to you for the observation.

Thanks. Futher to that, and in response to A_M's note about holocaust "fans," I'd say there's a subtle difference between advocating more killing and lauding past killing.

On another note, you mentioned Soros. For some reason his name in my mind is inextricably linked to this (click for full size):

[BartSimpson]

That's a pretty wild cartoon. Makes me wonder how many people would rather cut off their own hand than try to use facts and reason to carry an argument.

[Regina]

Abbas ??

[BartSimpson]

Regina Regina:

Abbas ??

Actually, he was pretty rational. He was adamantly set in his devotion to islam, but outside of that I found him to be engaging and intellectually honest.

[Regina]

Yeah for the most part he was. I seem to remember him posting some inappropriate videos that were along the same lines as this kids wish.

[BartSimpson]

Regina Regina:

Yeah for the most part he was. I seem to remember him posting some inappropriate videos that were along the same lines as this kids wish.

Yep, that he did. And you know what? That's what I expected from him.

And his videos and etc. were contextually within the expectation of his being a devout muslim.

Outside of that, he would engage in some rational discourse on various subjects and was quite, er, moderate on some things.

Frankly, I liked him being here simply for that his presence was a thorn in the side to the idiots who want to pretend that muslims such as Abbas only exist in the imaginations of paranoids.

[Johnny_Utah]

Regina Regina:

Abbas ??

What about Baylee?

[Regina]

Johnny_Utah Johnny_Utah:

Regina Regina:

Abbas ??

What about Baylee?

True.........but he wasn't able to sting a full sentence together long enough to get his point across.

[sasquatch2]

Perhaps the authorities are telling us something....

Although they have not posted his picture they named him and provided some information..............

HMMMMMMM.......

[Richard]

fifeboy fifeboy:

SprCForr SprCForr:

He's not a kid. He's in his mid-20's and that makes him most certainly an adult.

The solution to the problem is easy and certainly low to no risk:

Make a complaint to the Human Rights Commission.

OK, I missed the age the age thing. There must be something in the law to deal with this. If I went to my neighbour and told her I hoped someone would kill her?? Wouldn't there be something there be something that could be done?

If you said you were going to kill her or hire someone to do it. Then you have a problem.