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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:30 pm
 


tritium tritium:
I'm all for defending my own home.

But if someone is breaking into my neighbors home, I will call the police.

This could have turned out even more tragic. What if Mr. Horn went over to stop the intruders and the actual home owner thought he was a burgler and shot him.

Let the Police deal with it, they are the professionals. (most of the time)
The home owner wasn't there...

But you raise an interesting point, what if he was there, and Mr. Horn went over to help the guy out, for fear of him not being able to protect himself? What would you guys say then?


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:31 pm
 


tritium tritium:
I'm all for defending my own home.

But if someone is breaking into my neighbors home, I will call the police.

This could have turned out even more tragic. What if Mr. Horn went over to stop the intruders and the actual home owner thought he was a burgler and shot him.

Let the Police deal with it, they are the professionals. (most of the time)


Reread the artical they came onto his property when they were shot. Also where does it say they were shot in the back?


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This guy should go to jail for first degree murder. He was itching to kill someone and he intervened in something that didn't affect him directly. I'm all for protecting yourself, but like the dispatcher said, no ones property is worth killing over. Stupid old man.


By this measure then the police should not interfere with burglars or rapists or etc. unless it affects them directly.
The police are given powers to do just that, your neighbour isn't. Why would you even say something like that.


Because his an American, they just want an excuse to fondle their “guns” Red Necks.
Now now, there's nothing wrong with gun. In this case the owner was just itching to kill someone.


Or maybe he was wanting to protect a neighbor that he knew was not to well off and that they had scraped and saved to obtain the few things they did have.
It's not his place to intervene with deadly force. If he wanted to help his neighbour he could have donated money after the fact or organized a donation drive.


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Tricks Tricks:
tritium tritium:
I'm all for defending my own home.

But if someone is breaking into my neighbors home, I will call the police.

This could have turned out even more tragic. What if Mr. Horn went over to stop the intruders and the actual home owner thought he was a burgler and shot him.

Let the Police deal with it, they are the professionals. (most of the time)
The home owner wasn't there...

But you raise an interesting point, what if he was there, and Mr. Horn went over to help the guy out, for fear of him not being able to protect himself? What would you guys say then?
It's an entirely different story if you are protecting someone. Let's not muddy the waters with what if's.


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RUEZ RUEZ:
stratos stratos:
RUEZ RUEZ:
tritium tritium:
RUEZ RUEZ:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
RUEZ RUEZ:
This guy should go to jail for first degree murder. He was itching to kill someone and he intervened in something that didn't affect him directly. I'm all for protecting yourself, but like the dispatcher said, no ones property is worth killing over. Stupid old man.


By this measure then the police should not interfere with burglars or rapists or etc. unless it affects them directly.
The police are given powers to do just that, your neighbour isn't. Why would you even say something like that.


Because his an American, they just want an excuse to fondle their “guns” Red Necks.
Now now, there's nothing wrong with gun. In this case the owner was just itching to kill someone.


Or maybe he was wanting to protect a neighbor that he knew was not to well off and that they had scraped and saved to obtain the few things they did have.
It's not his place to intervene with deadly force. If he wanted to help his neighbour he could have donated money after the fact or organized a donation drive.


We may disagree on many things, but here, you're right on the money.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:34 pm
 


RUEZ RUEZ:
Tricks Tricks:
tritium tritium:
I'm all for defending my own home.

But if someone is breaking into my neighbors home, I will call the police.

This could have turned out even more tragic. What if Mr. Horn went over to stop the intruders and the actual home owner thought he was a burgler and shot him.

Let the Police deal with it, they are the professionals. (most of the time)
The home owner wasn't there...

But you raise an interesting point, what if he was there, and Mr. Horn went over to help the guy out, for fear of him not being able to protect himself? What would you guys say then?
It's an entirely different story if you are protecting someone. Let's not muddy the waters with what if's.


"What if"s are Tricks' specialty.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:35 pm
 


RUEZ RUEZ:
Tricks Tricks:
tritium tritium:
I'm all for defending my own home.

But if someone is breaking into my neighbors home, I will call the police.

This could have turned out even more tragic. What if Mr. Horn went over to stop the intruders and the actual home owner thought he was a burgler and shot him.

Let the Police deal with it, they are the professionals. (most of the time)
The home owner wasn't there...

But you raise an interesting point, what if he was there, and Mr. Horn went over to help the guy out, for fear of him not being able to protect himself? What would you guys say then?
It's an entirely different story if you are protecting someone. Let's not muddy the waters with what if's.
No I know it`s different, just seeing how it would change the opinion.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:35 pm
 


lily lily:
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Nevertheless, "if you're claiming self-defense, you can't announce ahead of time you're going outside to shoot somebody, and that could be Horn's problem" if any charges are filed.

Except in Texas. :roll:

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But the outcome of any grand jury deliberations may have been foreshadowed on Tuesday, when seven candidates in next Saturday's election for the new mayor of Pasadena were asked about Horn's fate during a debate, and none of them said he should face prosecution for his actions on Nov. 14.

Holy.

God help them.


Or maybe we are just sick of theifs and criminals and in this case what might be seen as an overlong response time by the police. As citizens of the US. we do have the right to bare arms and here in Texas you have the right to defend your property.

Yet like I said earlier I'm not sure if they law covers this type of situation.


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lily lily:
He went outside with the intention of shooting them. He waited about 20 before telling the 911 operator that he had a gun and would use it.
And in his own words.
$1:
"I'm sorry, I ain't letting them get away with this," said Horn


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:36 pm
 


hurley_108 hurley_108:
RUEZ RUEZ:
Tricks Tricks:
tritium tritium:
I'm all for defending my own home.

But if someone is breaking into my neighbors home, I will call the police.

This could have turned out even more tragic. What if Mr. Horn went over to stop the intruders and the actual home owner thought he was a burgler and shot him.

Let the Police deal with it, they are the professionals. (most of the time)
The home owner wasn't there...

But you raise an interesting point, what if he was there, and Mr. Horn went over to help the guy out, for fear of him not being able to protect himself? What would you guys say then?
It's an entirely different story if you are protecting someone. Let's not muddy the waters with what if's.


"What if"s are Tricks' specialty.
And apparently being a dick is yours.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:38 pm
 


RUEZ RUEZ:
stratos stratos:
RUEZ RUEZ:
tritium tritium:
RUEZ RUEZ:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
RUEZ RUEZ:
This guy should go to jail for first degree murder. He was itching to kill someone and he intervened in something that didn't affect him directly. I'm all for protecting yourself, but like the dispatcher said, no ones property is worth killing over. Stupid old man.


By this measure then the police should not interfere with burglars or rapists or etc. unless it affects them directly.
The police are given powers to do just that, your neighbour isn't. Why would you even say something like that.


Because his an American, they just want an excuse to fondle their “guns” Red Necks.
Now now, there's nothing wrong with gun. In this case the owner was just itching to kill someone.


Or maybe he was wanting to protect a neighbor that he knew was not to well off and that they had scraped and saved to obtain the few things they did have.
It's not his place to intervene with deadly force. If he wanted to help his neighbour he could have donated money after the fact or organized a donation drive.


Who says its not his place to do so? The laws here in Texas are a tad vague in regards to this case. Though the law is very clear that theft is illegal. Will be interesting to see how it comes out IF he goes to trail.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:39 pm
 


lily lily:
Tricks Tricks:
RUEZ RUEZ:
Tricks Tricks:
tritium tritium:
I'm all for defending my own home.

But if someone is breaking into my neighbors home, I will call the police.

This could have turned out even more tragic. What if Mr. Horn went over to stop the intruders and the actual home owner thought he was a burgler and shot him.

Let the Police deal with it, they are the professionals. (most of the time)
The home owner wasn't there...

But you raise an interesting point, what if he was there, and Mr. Horn went over to help the guy out, for fear of him not being able to protect himself? What would you guys say then?
It's an entirely different story if you are protecting someone. Let's not muddy the waters with what if's.
No I know it`s different, just seeing how it would change the opinion.

Good point though.

What if the burglars were decorated veterans suffering from PTSD? What then?

And what if they were a couple of hot young gals with hungry kids at home?

Would that affect your opinion?
No. He would have had no way of knowing for either. Though it would make this more tragic.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:40 pm
 


lily lily:
Tricks Tricks:
RUEZ RUEZ:
Tricks Tricks:
tritium tritium:
I'm all for defending my own home.

But if someone is breaking into my neighbors home, I will call the police.

This could have turned out even more tragic. What if Mr. Horn went over to stop the intruders and the actual home owner thought he was a burgler and shot him.

Let the Police deal with it, they are the professionals. (most of the time)
The home owner wasn't there...

But you raise an interesting point, what if he was there, and Mr. Horn went over to help the guy out, for fear of him not being able to protect himself? What would you guys say then?
It's an entirely different story if you are protecting someone. Let's not muddy the waters with what if's.
No I know it`s different, just seeing how it would change the opinion.

Good point though.

What if the burglars were decorated veterans suffering from PTSD? What then?

And what if they were a couple of hot young gals with hungry kids at home?

Would that affect your opinion?


Well in that case I'm sure RUEZ would do a donation drive to help out these poor people that stoop so low as to steal other peoples property.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:43 pm
 


stratos stratos:
lily lily:
Tricks Tricks:
RUEZ RUEZ:
Tricks Tricks:
tritium tritium:
I'm all for defending my own home.

But if someone is breaking into my neighbors home, I will call the police.

This could have turned out even more tragic. What if Mr. Horn went over to stop the intruders and the actual home owner thought he was a burgler and shot him.

Let the Police deal with it, they are the professionals. (most of the time)
The home owner wasn't there...

But you raise an interesting point, what if he was there, and Mr. Horn went over to help the guy out, for fear of him not being able to protect himself? What would you guys say then?
It's an entirely different story if you are protecting someone. Let's not muddy the waters with what if's.
No I know it`s different, just seeing how it would change the opinion.

Good point though.

What if the burglars were decorated veterans suffering from PTSD? What then?

And what if they were a couple of hot young gals with hungry kids at home?

Would that affect your opinion?


Well in that case I'm sure RUEZ would do a donation drive to help out these poor people that stoop so low as to steal other peoples property.
WTF? You want to discuss this are do you want to act like a child?


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:44 pm
 


RUEZ RUEZ:
stratos stratos:
lily lily:
Tricks Tricks:
RUEZ RUEZ:
Tricks Tricks:
tritium tritium:
I'm all for defending my own home.

But if someone is breaking into my neighbors home, I will call the police.

This could have turned out even more tragic. What if Mr. Horn went over to stop the intruders and the actual home owner thought he was a burgler and shot him.

Let the Police deal with it, they are the professionals. (most of the time)
The home owner wasn't there...

But you raise an interesting point, what if he was there, and Mr. Horn went over to help the guy out, for fear of him not being able to protect himself? What would you guys say then?
It's an entirely different story if you are protecting someone. Let's not muddy the waters with what if's.
No I know it`s different, just seeing how it would change the opinion.

Good point though.

What if the burglars were decorated veterans suffering from PTSD? What then?

And what if they were a couple of hot young gals with hungry kids at home?

Would that affect your opinion?


Well in that case I'm sure RUEZ would do a donation drive to help out these poor people that stoop so low as to steal other peoples property.
WTF? You want to discuss this are do you want to act like a child?
Too late, Lily and hurley already are.


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