[Freakinoldguy]

Delwin Delwin:

Harper's decision undermines the decision of the supreme court not to extradite to countries which have the death penalty. How can we as a country support the non-extradition policy and condone the execution of Canadian prisoners. It is not within Harper's right to undermine the charter.

The charter, the charter, the charter.

It's called the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms for a reason. It only applies in Canada, not the rest of the world. Other countries have their own policies and laws which they seem to think work quite well and actually take umbrage with foreigners who think they know better than they do how to administer justice.

Given how the left in this country is always complaining about how we are losing our soverignty to the Amercians how do you think it looks when they do the exact same thing by attempting to interfere in their judicial system.

Just because we can't extradite a murderer to a country that has capital punishment, doesn't mean that we can make them stop using it. This moron committed the murders in the US not Canada.

How is Harper undermining the Charter. Show me where in the Charter it says Canadians can't be executed in foreign countries, without the Government requesting clemency. Also could you show me in the Charter where it says Canadian Governments must interefere in foreign judicial matters?

If it were a law that required the Government to request clemency, then he'd be undermining it, until then he's done nothing wrong.

[Delwin]

Well, it is extremely bad foreign policy to take the stance that:" we as a nation will not extradite fugatives to countries which have the death penalty... but once you have them, do what you want. "

he has weakenend our official position against the death penalty>

[ShepherdsDog]

Maybe people should be a little more cognizant of where they are and what the consequences are for their criminal behaviors. Canadian laws only apply in Canada.

[Wada]

Then why are we and many other nations constantly involved in the business of other nations. With your thinking ,"What business do we have in Afganistan? or Iraq? or Haiti? or Columbia? or Darfor or any place else?

[WBenson]

Delwin Delwin:

Harper's decision undermines the decision of the supreme court not to extradite to countries which have the death penalty. How can we as a country support the non-extradition policy and condone the execution of Canadian prisoners. It is not within Harper's right to undermine the charter.

I don't believe in the death penalty, however I fail to see how this "undermines the Charter."

This is someone arrested in Montana being held in Montana who violated Montana law and is subject to Montana punishments. The last I checked, merely being somewhere that touches Canada doesn't grant you the Constitutional protections you Canada.

The Canadian constitution cannot protect you from anything but bodies subject to Canadian law. Montana is not. When you leave Canada, you leave its Constitution as well.

The Prime Minister is not obligated to uphold Canadian law in any country but Canada. I think it would be outstanding if it did, but it wouldn't be his duty.

The country doesn't have to support the non-extradition policy, either. Constitutional rights aren't founded in popular opinion.

[ShepherdsDog]

Wada Wada:

Then why are we and many other nations constantly involved in the business of other nations. With your thinking ,"What business do we have in Afganistan? or Iraq? or Haiti? or Columbia? or Darfor or any place else?

There's Canadian Law and International Law.

[Alta_redneck]

The Liberals had their chance when he was first arrested and did nothing, why is he worth saving now?

$1:

"(Smith's) immediate comment was that 'Canada had kicked him to the curb again,' " said Jackson, referring to the weeks following Smith's arrest in 1982 when "the Canadian government did not see fit to respond, contact him, visit him, advise him of his rights or provide any support, assistance, guidance, etc."

He has been in jail since he was 15 year old, when he was out he went to Montana and killed 2 people, nice way to spend your few days of freedom.

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news ... 39&k=60559

[hwacker]

Wada Wada:

Then why are we and many other nations constantly involved in the business of other nations. With your thinking ,"What business do we have in Afganistan? or Iraq? or Haiti? or Columbia? or Darfor or any place else?

Cause we just like to stir the pot so you liberals can hate Canada more and move.

[ridenrain]

Once again, the Liberal party talks like everyone in the room agrees with them.

I don't recall a referendum on this matter.. I simply recall having these critical things rammed down my throat by a majority government that thought they new best for Canadians. Looking at the conditions of the justice industry right now, a product of that same party, and I'd say almost all of us agree that it's not going well.

Dion should make this an election issue, along with raising taxes, and a campaign that highlights his terrific charisma.

[tritium]

I'm all for the death penalty, you kill you get killed.

An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.

Canada should stay out of it.

[Wada]

tritium tritium:

I'm all for the death penalty, you kill you get killed.

An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.

Canada should stay out of it.

I think your absolutely right!

You accidentally kill some kid with your car then the deceased's family should have the prerogative to run you over or one of your family. The one thing I don't like about this idea is if you wack me upside the head by your logic I can only hit ya back once and I know that just won't appease my anger. We definitely need to discuss this further dude.

[tritium]

Wada Wada:

tritium tritium:

I'm all for the death penalty, you kill you get killed.

An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.

Canada should stay out of it.

I think your absolutely right!

You accidentally kill some kid with your car then the deceased's family should have the prerogative to run you over or one of your family. The one thing I don't like about this idea is if you wack me upside the head by your logic I can only hit ya back once and I know that just won't appease my anger. We definitely need to discuss this further dude.

Yeah, no. Nice try.

Vehicular Manslaughter, no.

First Degree murder where it has been proven an intentional killing of another, by all means the death penalty.



No need for expensive gas chambers or injection beds. To the gallows with you.

[DerbyX]

tritium tritium:

I'm all for the death penalty, you kill you get killed.

An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.

Canada should stay out of it.

Would you feel that way if it were a Canadian or American facing the "justice" of an islamic country because they had broken their laws?

The standard response will be "No their laws are barbaric ......."

Often true but besides the point.

Canada outlawed the death penalty and even though I disagree with that I respect the fact that our federal gov't should continue with our well established tradition of opposing the death penalty for our citizens abroad, at least as an automatic appeal.

If we reinstated the death penalty here in Canada then Harper might have a leg to stand on but he doesn't. Its just a way to weasel out of his PM responsibilities.

[Wada]

tritium tritium:

Wada Wada:

tritium tritium:

I'm all for the death penalty, you kill you get killed.

An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.

Canada should stay out of it.

I think your absolutely right!

You accidentally kill some kid with your car then the deceased's family should have the prerogative to run you over or one of your family. The one thing I don't like about this idea is if you wack me upside the head by your logic I can only hit ya back once and I know that just won't appease my anger. We definitely need to discuss this further dude.

Yeah, no. Nice try.

Vehicular Manslaughter, no.

First Degree murder where it has been proven an intentional killing of another, by all means the death penalty.



No need for expensive gas chambers or injection beds. To the gallows with you.

Even cheaper would be a power pack for a Taser and it adds a thrill to the event because if the murderer should possibly live then you could have him/her spin a wheel to see if they get Tasered again or shot in the knee or what have you. Dude. Your only half dreaming again.

[ridenrain]

Here's a new poster boy for Dion to get behind.

$1:

Deportation may not stop sex offender
Man, 48, wanted in U.S. may be released at border and return to Canada
Susan Lazaruk, The Province
Published: Thursday, November 22, 2007
A wanted U.S. sex offender with a 30-year history of violent and sexual crimes is facing deportation this week -- his fourth order in five years.

But British Columbians who have followed the case for years fear Denver Todd Carnes could end up in Canada again.

http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/ ... 6ddd664ba6