[uwish]

[FieryVulpine]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

FieryVulpine FieryVulpine:

Tricks Tricks:

Dyson doesn't disagree with Climate change, he's said AGW is happening, he doesn't agree with the timeline. He doesn't like the computer models.

Can you blame him? The so-called experts have been notoriously bad at predicting the effects of climate change for decades to the point where it's a sad joke.

Yes, we can. I've gone through the 1990 IPCC report, and shown predictions that are occurring now.

The magic predictions attributed to no one in particular seem to be the ones the deniers will trot out to prove their bias.

Some brilliant people like Dyson are just bad with subjects outside their area of expertise.

Using the the term "denier" renders your argument invalid. It is used by people whose understanding of science borders on superstition.

[N_Fiddledog]

What Dyson says isn't much different than what most skeptics say. Tricks is giving you a managed description of what Dyson says that isn't exactly correct though.

And get off your soap box Doc. You selected a few predictions from modeled hundreds that for whatever reasons might have kind of come close.

If the IPCC or Hansen or any other modeler had actually been publicly predicting what's happened since 1998 in the real world they'd never be able to push the fear.

[DrCaleb]

stratos stratos:

While we are at it lets see who is paying the bills for Gretta and the other kids to travel all around the globe for their lecture and protest tour.

Arnold Schwarzenegger Lends Greta Thunberg A Tesla

[DrCaleb]

FieryVulpine FieryVulpine:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

FieryVulpine FieryVulpine:

Can you blame him? The so-called experts have been notoriously bad at predicting the effects of climate change for decades to the point where it's a sad joke.

Yes, we can. I've gone through the 1990 IPCC report, and shown predictions that are occurring now.

The magic predictions attributed to no one in particular seem to be the ones the deniers will trot out to prove their bias.

Some brilliant people like Dyson are just bad with subjects outside their area of expertise.

Using the the term "denier" renders your argument invalid. It is used by people whose understanding of science borders on superstition.

My argument is logical. People who fight science with Jedi mind tricks instead of data are at this stage of the game, 'deniers'.

[BartSimpson]

It's September 30th and we have snow in the Sierra when we normally don't see heavy snow until January.

Must be all that global warming!

[Thanos]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Some brilliant people like Dyson are just bad with subjects outside their area of expertise.

Never stopped David Suzuki from constantly mouthing off.

[llama66]

I was promised "warming", not cooling.

[uwish]

data...

[DrCaleb]

Thanos Thanos:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Some brilliant people like Dyson are just bad with subjects outside their area of expertise.

Never stopped David Suzuki from constantly mouthing off.

Suzuki is a geneticist.

[Thanos]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Thanos Thanos:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Some brilliant people like Dyson are just bad with subjects outside their area of expertise.

Never stopped David Suzuki from constantly mouthing off.

Suzuki is a geneticist.

Which overlaps with climate studies where exactly?

[N_Fiddledog]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

My argument is logical. People who fight science with Jedi mind tricks instead of data are at this stage of the game, 'deniers'.

Prediction models aren't data, Bub.

If you want to pose as the representative of "the science" you might want to start with that basic fact.

[N_Fiddledog]

In fact speaking of your previous suggestion that the 1990 models matched actual temperatures; as I understand it what somebody did there is he took the high end of manipulated climate data and matched it with the low end of IPCC climate models. That came close. But it doesn't make you champion of "The Data" Doc. More like the exact opposite.

[BartSimpson]

When the data doesn't support the bullshit global warming agenda then you just delete the data.

[raydan]