[llama66]

In a hundred years CO2 will have increased to 0.07% (roughly double what it is today). If all parts in a solution must equal 100, what has been replaced?

[stratos]

$1:

So you have the operators manual for the Earths' Climate?

No the Russians have it.

To make this semi relevant. Back in the 80's I was deployed to the Virgin Islands after a hurricane. While gone a freak wind storm hit Ft. Hood and took out almost the entire Apache fleet stationed there, other side of the hangers were older choppers not a single one of them got damaged. My platoon Sgt half seriously said it was the Russians who did it and he suspected them of being able to control the weather.

[llama66]

I thought the American's had it when they created the HAARP atmospheric manipulator.

[stratos]

llama66 llama66:

I thought the American's had it when they created the HAARP atmospheric manipulator.

shhhh first rule of HAARP is we don't talk about HAARP. If you do men in black suits come and supposedly they take you to Area 51.

[PluggyRug]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

So you have the operators manual for the Earths' Climate? Can you post it here? There are a lot of people who would like to get a look at that.

No one has it, some think they have it and end up wallowing in Goreism.

In related news.

A recent study has shown that currently in the Northern Hemisphere the day days are getting shorter and the nights longer. The consensus among experts is that the increase in CO2 levels is holding back the sun's ability to crest the horizon.
In another study Chandlers Wobble was put forward as a possible cause but was eventually debunked as not enough money was siphoned off to the UN.

[llama66]

Maybe that's my plan, so I can attack Area 51 from inside Area 51. Vive la Invasione!




(For the record, I'm not down to invade Area 51)

[stratos]

llama66 llama66:

Maybe that's my plan, so I can attack Area 51 from inside Area 51. Vive la Invasione!




(For the record, I'm not down to invade Area 51)

Oh man you're killing me here.

[N_Fiddledog]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

FieryVulpine FieryVulpine:

What really gets me is that the climate alarmists what everyone else to believe that we are on the cusp of an extinction event to rival the Permian-Triassic event. That the Earth will become a Venusian hellscape if we do not give more money and political power to the government right now. Never mind the fact that we have had doomsday predictions since the seventies and not of them came true. I recall that the UN was telling us that entire nations would disappear under the waves by 2000 in the late-eighties/early-nineties. Guess what? 2000 came and no climate apocalypse. What is it now, 2030? Pardon me if I roll my eyes and go on my merry way.

So you have the operators manual for the Earths' Climate? Can you post it here? There are a lot of people who would like to get a look at that.

And I have been documenting the IPCC 1990 report's predictions that have been coming true.

Hang on there, Doc. Isn't it the doctrine you and yours want to promote that says they can move the climatic temperature up and down like with a thermostat providing we have the right ideological fingers at the control?

And spurts of unusual weather isn't a prediction it's just noticing what everybody else has always noticed.

There was a cyclone (hurricane) on the west coast in the 60s. Did you predict that? Did you predict the American heat wave causing dust bowl conditions in the 30s?

[DrCaleb]

llama66 llama66:

In a hundred years CO2 will have increased to 0.07% (roughly double what it is today). If all parts in a solution must equal 100, what has been replaced?

Nothing has to be replaced. Atmosphere isn't a finite container, things can grow to make a bigger container.

[DrCaleb]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

So you have the operators manual for the Earths' Climate? Can you post it here? There are a lot of people who would like to get a look at that.

No one has it, some think they have it and end up wallowing in Goreism.

So, no one has the manual on how Earths Climate works. So we have to make it up as we go along. But yet FP seemed to be at odds with the fact that past predictions weren't always accurate.

Tell you a secret though, studying asteriod impacts, volcanic events, Venus and Mars have told us a lot about what the future of climate may hold, if we aren't careful with the climate we've got.

But what we do know is that humans are screwing with the climate, and if we don't stop it we may start something that ends with a lot of things dying. Including us.

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

In related news.

A recent study has shown that currently in the Northern Hemisphere the day days are getting shorter and the nights longer. The consensus among experts is that the increase in CO2 levels is holding back the sun's ability to crest the horizon.
In another study Chandlers Wobble was put forward as a possible cause but was eventually debunked as not enough money was siphoned off to the UN.

[citation needed]

Or is that like the Liberal Interference in the CBC you claimed, then didn't feel the need to back up?

[llama66]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

llama66 llama66:

In a hundred years CO2 will have increased to 0.07% (roughly double what it is today). If all parts in a solution must equal 100, what has been replaced?

Nothing has to be replaced. Atmosphere isn't a finite container, things can grow to make a bigger container.

Can't keep filling a cup that's already full. Either the atmosphere will grow more dense, or something will be lost to space. However a denser, more CO2 rich atmosphere is probable not good for the environment.

[DrCaleb]

llama66 llama66:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

llama66 llama66:

In a hundred years CO2 will have increased to 0.07% (roughly double what it is today). If all parts in a solution must equal 100, what has been replaced?

Nothing has to be replaced. Atmosphere isn't a finite container, things can grow to make a bigger container.

Can't keep filling a cup that's already full. Either the atmosphere will grow more dense, or something will be lost to space. However a denser, more CO2 rich atmosphere is probable not good for the environment.

Atmosphere is always lost to space. Every planet we've probed is like this. Mars lost most of its atmosphere to space because it lost its' magnetic field. Venus became a runaway climate when the sun got hotter and it presumably had no plant life to moderate the change. All 3 of the inner planets lose some atmosphere to space, and solar winds.

And no, historical CO2 levels that vary have generally been bad for organisms that rely on a stable climate to survive. Adaptation is slow, and sudden changes bring on extinctions. And the rate of change for CO2 levels right now are beyond precedent for any natural event in the past.

[stratos]

$1:

However a denser, more CO2 rich atmosphere is probable not good for the environment.

Wasn't that the condition during the Dinosaurs reign of the world?

[llama66]

Dinosaurs had a more O2 rich Atmosphere, hence they were able to grow larger, or at least that's this week's theory.

[DrCaleb]

stratos stratos:

$1:

However a denser, more CO2 rich atmosphere is probable not good for the environment.

Wasn't that the condition during the Dinosaurs reign of the world?

They were about 5 times the CO2 concentration as now. But few of the species living then are still alive now. And they adapted to todays' levels, and temperatures, or remain in places where conditions favour them.

Changing climate too quickly results in extinctions, as you can tell from all the dinosaurs that aren't running around now.

llama66 llama66:

Dinosaurs had a more O2 rich Atmosphere, hence they were able to grow larger, or at least that's this week's theory.

Being cold blooded, they didn't have the energy needs of mammals. Oxygen levels were also much lower, enabling their larger size.