[BartSimpson]

raydan raydan:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Socialism fails because it always requires force to make it work.

And don't go confusing Scandinavian welfare programs with socialism because it pisses off the Scandinavians.

That not the fault of Socialism, it's the fault of people.

And people who like socialism are part of why I own guns.

[Thanos]

And the lack of empathy, if not outright laughing contempt, towards those harmed by capitalism by those too much in love with it is the main reason why so many others are now toying with socialism as the only way to bring some kind of balance back to the playing field. I know you won't acknowledge this annoying little fact at all but your dismissiveness doesn't mean the concern isn't real.

[BartSimpson]

Thanos Thanos:

And the lack of empathy, if not outright laughing contempt, towards those harmed by capitalism by those too much in love with it is the main reason why so many others are now toying with socialism as the only way to bring some kind of balance back to the playing field. I know you won't acknowledge this annoying little fact at all but your dismissiveness doesn't mean the concern isn't real.

No one has ever been forced to be a capitalist.

Capitalism arises in the absence of government power and sometimes it happens despite government power.

I'm sorry that your life has been hard and that you think you've been treated unfairly but that's not the fault of capitalism. And if you think the solution is replacing capitalism with a system in which what assets you have will be seized by the same dicks you hate right now then you're delusional.

Also, and I say this as a friend: if in real life you are as angry and bitter as you are on this forum then it may be that you are a far bigger obstacle in your life than any anonymous capitalist ever could be.

Been there myself. My years from 1983 to around 2001 were aimless and shitty and I absolutely created my own problems. I'm fortunate that my wife stuck it out with me because things are pretty good now.

But I had to decide to make my way and not to let anyone else make choices for me.

[Thanos]

No, but we're forced to live in a world molded and deformed by capitalists. Not that what they've made is unique really. It's just another smiley-face veneer on the same old strong taking everything they can from the weak. And why not? It's the way the world works because God wants it this way. Same as it ever was, and it'll be this way forever. Someone always HAS to lose. The game isn't fun for the winners without the losers around.

Just had the debit card say NSF at the grocery store. What do you think that feels like? Tell me again how and why I'm not supposed to be filled with rage, Bart. My life is over, not physically unfortunately, just mentally and emotionally. If I'd had a gun I would have driven to the nearest bank and shot myself in the head in their lobby.

[stratos]

Thanos I understand the rage, I've been in a similar situation in my life. As Bart said I went forward strove towards goals. Small ones that lead to bigger ones. I am not some mega rich whooping success. What I am is sufficient and partial in control of my future. I've set things up that where if I lose this job I can still find other employment. Might not start out making as much but I will rise again if need be. Yes it is hard and oh so frustrating. Thing for me is God put the opportunists in my path. He also blocked a lot of things I wanted. I'll probably never know why but I accept and move on.

[Thanos]

Pretty sure that I'm where I am because this was God's plan for me all along. A brief moment in the sun followed by a fall into permanent darkness. I don't see any way out anymore. At this stage if I get diagnosed in the next few years with the traditional family prostate cancer I think I'll decline treatment for it, just because I don't think I can endure another twenty or thirty years of this unrelenting getting beaten down into the ground.