[Mowich]

herbie herbie:

FFS they specifically passed a DPA law for this blackmailing shit of a company and JWR is whining about "pressure" that any minimum wage earner gets 10X over.
A fucking Tory gov't would kowtowed just as bad to Lavalin and ORDERED the Justice Minister, who would've done it and shut up about it like a good dog. And you'd never know.
Don't fucking kid yourself. JWR is grandstanding, upset she's not as important as she thought she was. Boot her ass out already.

I don't see how the liberal caucus can allow her to stay, herbie. What are they going to do frisk her for a wire to make sure she isn't secretly taping them? She has proven willing to do so and thus left herself wide open to the possibility that she might do it again. She is nothing but a divisive presence within caucus and needs must be booted out ASAP.

[BeaverFever]

martin14 martin14:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

To the OP:

1) Once again we have a conservative opinion column in the news section. Why do conservatives have such a hard time telling the difference between facts and opinions?

So, since the Russia thing is all a massive crock, maybe the alt left should take their
own advice and all left wing MSM complete fabrication of lies and bullshit should
now only be allowed in the 'opinion' section.

Or better yet, the 'tin foil' flaming dumpster.

Your post just proves that like the rest of your ilk you can’t tell fact from opinion. The news reporting on Trump’s secret meetings with Russians and countless lies about same was accurate and factual.

For example it’s not an opinion to report that Trump Jr. and friends secretly met with Russians at Trump Tower to discuss the stolen Hillary emails, then denied the meeting took place, then claimed the meeting was only about adoptions. That’s just one example.

The “Russia thing” is not a massive crock, it resulted in dozens of criminal indictments of Trump cronies and associates, over a dozen state and federal spin-off criminal investigations still underway, and numerous guilty pleas and convictions.

Trump can enjoy his OJ Simpson “the gloves don’t fit” moment on collusion and the fact his hand-picked coverup crony is holding back obstruction of justice charges but it’s only a temporary reprieve. Still has nothing to do with your inability to differentiate fact from opinion.

[herbie]

Mowich Mowich:

herbie herbie:

FFS they specifically passed a DPA law for this blackmailing shit of a company and JWR is whining about "pressure" that any minimum wage earner gets 10X over.
A fucking Tory gov't would kowtowed just as bad to Lavalin and ORDERED the Justice Minister, who would've done it and shut up about it like a good dog. And you'd never know.
Don't fucking kid yourself. JWR is grandstanding, upset she's not as important as she thought she was. Boot her ass out already.

I don't see how the liberal caucus can allow her to stay, herbie. What are they going to do frisk her for a wire to make sure she isn't secretly taping them? She has proven willing to do so and thus left herself wide open to the possibility that she might do it again. She is nothing but a divisive presence within caucus and needs must be booted out ASAP.

No kidding. Secretly taping that conversation and publicly releasing it does as much damage to JWR as anyone else. Hard to be holier-than-thou and pull that shit.

I'm not supporting Trudeau on this - I'm pointing out this shit is normal politics.

[BeaverFever]

Mowich Mowich:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Thanos Thanos:

I'll give JWR credit for taking out Wernick, and maybe for torpedoing the Trudeau PMO altogether just from being smart enough to cover her own ass with the recordings, emails, etc.. The spectacle of the "most feminist PM ever!" getting nailed by some women in caucus that he screwed over or wanted to behave unethically on behalf of a corrupt Quebec mega-corporation is hilarious if nothing else. That being said though JWR herself leaves a lot to be desired as a minister. This thing with Admiral Norman is as sleazy as it gets. The worst thing she's been involved with is this racial "balancing" of juries that Trudeau demanded after the jury delivered a "wrong" verdict in the Stanley/Boushie case. That showed that JWR was as uninterested as Trudeau in maintaining the independence and integrity of the trial system and much more interested in using it as another virtue-signalling/politically-correct weapon. That isn't the sort of person who should be overseeing a legal system, not if some ephemeral "social justice" is their main priority over the basic justice a trial is supposed to deliver.

Nobody ordered any “racial balancing” of juries that’s just a straight up lie.

You are right. It was never ordered because she never got the chance to tamper with the selection process which by her own statement following the verdict she had every intention of trying to do.

Another lie. You should be ashamed. Try and learn the facts for a change.

[martin14]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Trump can enjoy his OJ Simpson “the gloves don’t fit” moment

There are no gloves.

Just like no collusion. Ever. With anything.



You just keep wrapping that tin foil even tighter.

[Coach85]

herbie herbie:

No kidding. Secretly taping that conversation and publicly releasing it does as much damage to JWR as anyone else. Hard to be holier-than-thou and pull that shit.

I'm not supporting Trudeau on this - I'm pointing out this shit is normal politics.

The recording and notes were released by the JC, not JWR herself.

JWR, to the greater population in Canada, is likely one of the only ones left with integrity.

What's funny is to hear Liberal and NDP faithful shit all over JWR because they know their partie(s) are going to take a shit-kicking in October and this is a tactic they seem to feel is working. One doesn't have to look far beyond any recent poll to figure out that this tactic has been a miserable failure.

If JWR wanted to act 'holier-than-thou' she could have released this recording and everything else 3-6 months ago...or when she was demoted....or when she resigned. Instead, she provided the information via the proper channels....and she's being shit on for doing so.

[BeaverFever]

martin14 martin14:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Trump can enjoy his OJ Simpson “the gloves don’t fit” moment

There are no gloves.

Just like no collusion. Ever. With anything.



You just keep wrapping that tin foil even tighter.

Yeah ok and OJ didn’t murder anyone either. Trump is as innocent and exonerated as OJ is. The comparison is apt.

[BRAH]

Russian Collusion Derangement Syndrome (RCDS)

[BeaverFever]

Funny, this controversy has now triggered a fight between Brian Mulroney and Kim Campbell

$1:

Brian Mulroney memoirs contradict Wilson-Raybould testimony, Kim Campbell on politics and attorney-general

1 hour ago

Jody Wilson-Raybould approvingly points to Brian Mulroney as a prime minister who knew better than to politically interfere with the judgment of his attorney-general when it comes to criminal prosecutions.

But the former justice minister evidently didn’t read Mr. Mulroney’s memoirs, in which the former Conservative leader proudly recounts how he ordered his attorney-general to refer a controversial murder case to the Supreme Court of Canada.

That attorney-general was Kim Campbell who, according to Mr. Mulroney, did as she was told in the case of David Milgaard, who was wrongfully imprisoned for 23 years for a murder he did not commit. She went on to become prime minister.

Mr. Mulroney’s memoirs flatly contradict the version of events cited by Ms. Campbell in her own memoirs and repeated by Ms. Wilson-Raybould in a written submission last week to the House of Commons justice committee. The submission was intended to bolster her contention that she faced inappropriate pressure last fall from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, his top aides and others to stop the criminal prosecution of Montreal engineering giant SNC-Lavalin.

As part of her submission, Ms. Wilson-Raybould included transcripts of text messages she exchanged with her chief of staff, Jessica Prince, following a Dec. 18 meeting with Mr. Trudeau’s chief of staff, Katie Telford, and principal secretary Gerald Butts.

Ms. Prince relates that the duo tried to persuade her that Ms. Wilson-Raybould should seek advice from a retired Supreme Court justice as to whether she could review a decision by the director of public prosecutions, who had refused to negotiate a remediation agreement with SNC-Lavalin rather than pursue prosecution on bribery charges related to contracts in Libya. Ms. Prince says she repeatedly told Ms. Telford and Mr. Butts that would amount to “interference.”

In the course of that discussion, Ms. Prince says Mr. Butts raised the Milgaard case.

“Gerry told some story about how Mulroney met with David Milgaard’s mom, walked into the [cabinet] room and told Kim Campbell she had to fix it. She gave him all these A-G reasons why she couldn’t interfere but then she ultimately did what Mulroney wanted and was right,” Ms. Prince said.

After asking for more details about the reference to Mr. Milgaard, Ms. Wilson-Raybould then asks Ms. Prince to send her Ms. Campbell’s cell phone number, commenting “Good grief – this is absurd.”

Ms. Wilson-Raybould met with Ms. Campbell the following day at a Vancouver coffee shop.

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“Needless to say, she categorically denied what Mr. Butts had said and was quite offended and outraged by the comments. She adamantly denied the characterization not only of her as the attorney-general but of her former boss, Prime Minister Mulroney,” Ms. Wilson-Raybould wrote in her submission.

“She further reflected – as she did in her memoirs (1996) – that Brian Mulroney ‘was much too good a lawyer to intervene improperly in the matter. He never breathed a word about the Milgaard case to his A-G, nor did anyone in his office ever attempt to influence her handling of the case.’”

Ms. Wilson-Raybould did not mention that Ms. Campbell also wrote in her memoirs that Mr. Mulroney had “blindsided” her by meeting with Mr. Milgaard’s mother, Joyce, in 1991. She wrote that she was assured the two discussed only Mr. Milgaard’s living conditions in prison and not his application for a review of his conviction for the 1969 rape and murder of a Saskatoon nursing student, which Ms. Campbell had rejected.

Nevertheless, Ms. Campbell termed it an “inappropriate intervention” and suggested it was politically motivated. She wrote that Mr. Mulroney’s chief of staff, Hugh Segal, told the British Columbia Conservative caucus that the prime minister’s meeting with Joyce Milgaard was “brilliant” and the kind of thing he needed to do more to burnish his image in the run-up to the 1993 election.

Nor did Ms. Wilson-Raybould mention, or appear aware of the fact, that Mr. Mulroney completely contradicted Ms. Campbell’s version of events in his own memoirs, published in 2007.

He recounted how he was “disturbed” by the way in which Ms. Campbell had “brushed off” Joyce Milgaard, having told her during a public encounter: “Madam, if you wish to have your son’s case dealt with fairly, please do not approach me.” He was “privately furious with her” for rejecting Mr. Milgaard’s application for a review of his case.


Mr. Mulroney provided a condensed transcript of his meeting in Winnipeg with Joyce Milgaard, during which he said he was “extremely prudent” in his choice of words because he knew they were being recorded. At one point, he told her that Ms. Campbell is going to look at “new information that’s come in” and that he’s going to be talking to her when he gets back to Ottawa about her son’s case.

When he got back, Mr. Mulroney wrote, he had Ms. Campbell summoned to his parliamentary office where, “because of the sensitivity of the matter, I met with her alone.”

“‘The matter has been reviewed by the department and I have conveyed our decision,’ she told me.

“‘Kim,’ I answered, ‘that is not acceptable to me. The law provides for a reference to the Supreme Court and it is my intention to ensure that this case is in fact referred to the Supreme Court.’

“My tone was firm and my words unequivocal. She understood and changed her tack quickly.

“‘Prime Minister,’ she answered, ‘If this is the case, may I make the announcement myself?’”

The top court ultimately recommended Mr. Milgaard’s conviction be set aside. Ms. Campbell ordered a new trial but the government of Saskatchewan refused to do so, issued a stay of proceedings and freed Mr. Milgaard in 1992. Five years later, DNA evidence from the victim’s clothes cleared Mr. Milgaard and led to the arrest and eventual conviction of serial rapist Larry Fisher.

In a series of posts on Sunday on Twitter, Ms. Campbell insisted Mr. Mulroney’s version of events is not true and defended her handling of the case.

“I didn’t read Mr. Mulroney’s memoirs. Guess I should have!” she tweeted.

“While Mr. Mulroney apparently insists he did something he didn’t in the Milgaard case, I should point out that this was not a prosecutorial decision but an application for the Royal Prerogative of Mercy (And I actually did get advice from a retired SCC justice).”.....

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/pol ... imony-kim/

[martin14]

Coach85 Coach85:

What's funny is to hear Liberal and NDP faithful shit all over JWR because they know their partie(s) are going to take a shit-kicking in October and this is a tactic they seem to feel is working. One doesn't have to look far beyond any recent poll to figure out that this tactic has been a miserable failure.

One can only hope you are right.

[FieryVulpine]

And the prime minister just ejected JWR and Philpott from caucus.

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/ ... ral-caucus

[peck420]

And that is how you change the game's difficulty setting to insane....good luck at the upcoming elections!

[BRAH]

FieryVulpine FieryVulpine:

And the prime minister just ejected JWR and Philpott from caucus.

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/ ... ral-caucus

Stick a fork in him he’s done.

[N_Fiddledog]

[herbie]

About bloody time they booted the 2 of them.
Like the idiot meme claiming the high moral ground, secretly taping and publicly relaseing conversations. Right on. Cross the floor to the Party that traditionally stabs leaders in the back, ladies.