[DrCaleb]

I don't know what he'd apologise for. The government only took people away, and never returned them. And if they died, they never told the family, or even revealed to the family where their loved ones were buried.

Don't know what that was so bad that it requires an apology.






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[llama66]

Point taken, however,,, maybe not the time to be saying sorry. Apologizing doesn't magically fix what happened.

Government should not apologize for every misstep they make. So long as they don't make that misstep again.

From the mouth of Pierre-Elliott Trudeau:

$1:

"I do not think the purpose of a government is to right the past. It cannot rewrite history. It is our purpose to be just in our time."

He needs to worry less about what's done, and more about what's undone... in short he needs to be a PM that leads us forward and helps us be a great nation of the future, not one that is looking behind us lamenting our missteps.

[DrCaleb]

llama66 llama66:

Point taken, however,,, maybe not the time to be saying sorry. Apologizing doesn't magically fix what happened.

Government should not apologize for every misstep they make. So long as they don't make that misstep again.

From the mouth of Pierre-Elliott Trudeau:

$1:

"I do not think the purpose of a government is to right the past. It cannot rewrite history. It is our purpose to be just in our time."

He needs to worry less about what's done, and more about what's undone... in short he needs to be a PM that leads us forward and helps us be a great nation of the future, not one that is looking behind us lamenting our missteps.

He's not trying to right the past, he's trying to say 'The Government of Canada fucked up'. There are a lot of people in the North who had Mom and/or Dad and/or Sister and/or Brother put on a ship and taken away, never to be heard from again. The Government had to admit it was a bad idea to do this, and leave families broken and the fate of their loved ones unknown. Admitting the fuckup is the first step in letting the families heal.

I think this video includes an interview with a guy who's grandfather was taken, and his dad and uncle never knew what happened. He had to find his grandfathers' grave by himself.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/thenational/jus ... -1.5049943

[llama66]

That's great, it is... but now's not the time. How about focus on the current nation that needs his attention. The People in Alberta waiting for the pipelines so they can get back to work, how about addressing and dealing with the SNC-L scandal, how about patching the fractured relationship with some of our allies, how about trying to get those Canadian's that are being held in China, back to Canada (except the Drug dealer.. he made his bed). My point was he needs to worry about the mistakes being made NOW so future PM's don't have to apologize.

[DrCaleb]

All well and good, but the apology was scheduled weeks ago. It's wasn't exactly spur of the moment.

He's the PM. He should be able to multitask.

[BeaverFever]

martin14 martin14:

GreenTiger GreenTiger:

We have Donald Trump, you guys have Justin Trudeau, God help us.

Uh, we need the help a lot more than you do, buddy.

LMAO right
USA ia in collapse of society mode and is run by an incompetent crook.

Trudeau just says things that annoy you. BIG difference.

[BeaverFever]

[quote="DrCaleb"]
....or even revealed to the family where their loved ones were buried.[/quote/]

To be fair to the government, unmarked mass graves are REALLY hard to find

[BeaverFever]

llama66 llama66:

That's great, it is... but now's not the time. How about focus on the current nation that needs his attention. The People in Alberta waiting for the pipelines so they can get back to work, how about addressing and dealing with the SNC-L scandal, how about patching the fractured relationship with some of our allies, how about trying to get those Canadian's that are being held in China, back to Canada (except the Drug dealer.. he made his bed). My point was he needs to worry about the mistakes being made NOW so future PM's don't have to apologize.

When is the time? Some magical future where there aren’t issues for government to address?

There is direct connection between the how FN people live today and how the government has treated FN people for hundreds of years. Those actions weren’t mistakes or oversights or godd intentions gone wrong they were intentional mistreatment of poeerless people who had no rights under the law and were considered less than human.

You make the asinine argument that by issuing this apology government is somehow less able to do anything else like helping the Canadians China. That’s just a stupid notion and I don’t think you need to be told why.

[Thanos]

There's an archeological team from Alberta working with the Native bands in eastern Saskatchewan looking for skeletal remains of children at one of the more infamous residential schools they had there. Using ground-hugging radar they just found what appears to be an unmarked graveyard where the bodies of the children who died at the school were contemptuously disposed of. Get down to brass tacks and none of these apologies will ever be enough to make up for how generations of these kids were treated by official Canadian government policy.

[Freakinoldguy]

Should the gov't apologize, absolutely but, you can call me cynical because, I'm pretty sure the only reason the PM decided to apologize to the Inuit at this exact point in time was, so he wouldn't have to stand up in the House of Commons and explain his actions in the SNC Laval scandal, his demoting of JWR. Admiral Norman, Gerald Butts and why women are leaving his cabinet faster than a lepers body parts in a centrifuge.

Oh yeah, and the tears he shed were a nice touch to, especially since after his latest boondoggles with JWR he's trying his best to win back his biggest fan base who likely aren't too enamoured with him and his actions lately.

[DrCaleb]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

....or even revealed to the family where their loved ones were buried.[/quote/]

To be fair to the government, unmarked mass graves are REALLY hard to find

To be fair, the Government could have marked them. And recorded which village they came from, so they could notify their families. But they didn't give a fuck, so they didn't bother.

One thing my parents stressed on me was; we are human. We make mistakes. The way to be a good human is to realize these mistakes, and if they hurt someone else to apologise immediately when you realize your mistake.

It's just the decent thing to do.

[llama66]

Sure it's the decent thing to do. The other decent thing to do is to get this god damned country back on it's fucking feet. So, the Führer needs to be a little less apologiseie and do a little more workie. Wasn't he all like
"We are commited to protecting well paying jobs for Canadians"? So... Jobs?

[DrCaleb]

llama66 llama66:

Sure it's the decent thing to do. The other decent thing to do is to get this god damned country back on it's fucking feet. So, the Führer needs to be a little less apologiseie and do a little more workie. Wasn't he all like
"We are commited to protecting well paying jobs for Canadians"? So... Jobs?

I agree. But the two aren't mutually exclusive. He can sleep on the plane and work on his jobs strategy, while in between apologies.

[llama66]

but he's not. I guess thats a hallmark of how fucking shitty a PM he's been. What's going on with Trans-Mountain?