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[llama66]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

:mrgreen:

I doubt these losers could fight their way out of a wet paper bag...

This looks more like the Album Cover for some shitty 80's East German band.

[raydan]

Those aren't fists... they're just showing us how they grip their fun-parts.

[llama66]

raydan raydan:

Those aren't fists... they're just showing us how they grip their fun-parts.

Everyone know calling those bits "fun-parts" is a clear indicator of toxic masculinity and if they want to be part of modern progressive society they to to lob those bits off to show they respect women and to prove their loyalty to the Antifa movement. Because only Fascists with Toxic Masculinity have penises.

[martin14]

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:mrgreen:

Such violent positions.

They need more Gillette razors.

[peck420]

As funny as it is now, mock at your own peril.

Their numbers are growing, and we don't actually need that number to get very high before it will cause a shit ton of problems for the remainder of society.

Instead of mocking the effects, how about finding causes?

[fifeboy]

peck420 peck420:

As funny as it is now, mock at your own peril.

Their numbers are growing, and we don't actually need that number to get very high before it will cause a shit ton of problems for the remainder of society.

Instead of mocking the effects, how about finding causes?

[llama66]

$1:

Instead of mocking the effects, how about finding causes?

Causes?
1. The long peace
We've been at peace for ~80 years, this the longest period of peace since probably Pax Romana, 1900 years ago. (I'm excluding Pax Britannica because there were still major wars) We haven't had a major war (cold war doesn't really count) since Korea in the early 1950's. We've become lulled into thinking that war is no longer in our nature. We are a species that needs conflict, needs a direction or common goal to be happy.

2. The hijacking and death of the UN
The UN was supposed to be safeguard against further global conflict, but fatal flaws in its creation has lead to it being noting more than the league of nations 2.0, Allowing nations that act in counter to its mandate to sit on various committees(UNHRC, UNSC, etc) has lead to the UN be little more than a waste of money.

3. The destruction of the Nuclear Family
Shouldn't really have to explain that having a parental unit around is good for a child's development.

4. Misinformation/Power of the Media
We all know the internet is rife with misinformation, take this Coventon HS situation, the MSM and many influenced by the MSM had pronounced judgement before the kids had even gotten home.

5. The death of Bi-Partisanship
We no longer see a willingness to compromise, instead we've adopted an almost fatalist attitude of my way or the highway.. Nations are built on Compromise.

6. Technology leaping ahead of Society
The biggest cause I see is technology has leapt out in front of society. In the space of 35 years, we've gone from a largely analog society where we had T.V.'s, VCR's and touch tone phones, Cell phones and Personal Computers were still quite rare, to today where we have the internet, smart phones and everyone having a computer. Great progress, we just don't know how to act on this technology. Also in the least 35 years, our personal information and identity has become insecure, SWATing attacks have climbed, Doxxing, catfishing, rise of child pornography and other social issues that are directly influenced by this technology explosion. Another thing this new technology has allowed us to do is communicate in new ways. We all can share ideas and talk through the advent of social media and forums. This allows the propagation of ideas, both benign and malignant. As I believe is the case with both the far left and far right.

You said not to mock the 1980's East German Pop-rock band, without finding causes, I just gave you 6. Whether you agree or not, that's up to you.

[BeaverFever]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

The solution here is for the incels to all become radical Muslims because then it'll be socially tolerated when they threaten to do harm to other people.

I think more than a few of these converts to radical Islam are social outcasts, if not incels.

[herbie]

WTF do incels have to do with antifa or radical Islam or six fucking reasons, not one of which applies to them?
Quit hijacking every thread into the same goddam shit over and over again!

[BeaverFever]

llama66 llama66:

$1:

Instead of mocking the effects, how about finding causes?

Causes?
1. The long peace
We've been at peace for ~80 years, this the longest period of peace since probably Pax Romana, 1900 years ago. (I'm excluding Pax Britannica because there were still major wars) We haven't had a major war (cold war doesn't really count) since Korea in the early 1950's. We've become lulled into thinking that war is no longer in our nature. We are a species that needs conflict, needs a direction or common goal to be happy.

2. The hijacking and death of the UN
The UN was supposed to be safeguard against further global conflict, but fatal flaws in its creation has lead to it being noting more than the league of nations 2.0, Allowing nations that act in counter to its mandate to sit on various committees(UNHRC, UNSC, etc) has lead to the UN be little more than a waste of money.

3. The destruction of the Nuclear Family
Shouldn't really have to explain that having a parental unit around is good for a child's development.

4. Misinformation/Power of the Media
We all know the internet is rife with misinformation, take this Coventon HS situation, the MSM and many influenced by the MSM had pronounced judgement before the kids had even gotten home.

5. The death of Bi-Partisanship
We no longer see a willingness to compromise, instead we've adopted an almost fatalist attitude of my way or the highway.. Nations are built on Compromise.

6. Technology leaping ahead of Society
The biggest cause I see is technology has leapt out in front of society. In the space of 35 years, we've gone from a largely analog society where we had T.V.'s, VCR's and touch tone phones, Cell phones and Personal Computers were still quite rare, to today where we have the internet, smart phones and everyone having a computer. Great progress, we just don't know how to act on this technology. Also in the least 35 years, our personal information and identity has become insecure, SWATing attacks have climbed, Doxxing, catfishing, rise of child pornography and other social issues that are directly influenced by this technology explosion. Another thing this new technology has allowed us to do is communicate in new ways. We all can share ideas and talk through the advent of social media and forums. This allows the propagation of ideas, both benign and malignant. As I believe is the case with both the far left and far right.

You said not to mock the 1980's East German Pop-rock band, without finding causes, I just gave you 6. Whether you agree or not, that's up to you.

Not a bad list but I don’t know how you can leave out corporations replacing or at least challenging governments as the new centres of power. That has been one of the most profound developments of the past 40 years and I think it’s brought people to a new level of cynicism and unhappiness. The average citizen can see that corporations are now so wealthy and so large, politicians all over the world right on down to the local community level take their marching orders from them in one way or another or at least have to “play ball” in a game the corporate class controls. This has lead to some of the problems you 3 to 5 you list above and sometimes number 2 also.

Many if not most of our political decision-makers sit on corporate boards, sometimes many different boards, and/or socialize with members of the “corporate elite” so are naturally sympathetic to their views. As organizations, our governments rely on the policy advice of established big name consulting firms such as Deloitte, PWC, E&Y, the big banks, etc. who are not neutral advisors, they represent the corporate interest point of view.

Meanwhile As a the prospects for a lot of average middle class people have declined significantly: pensions and retiree benefits have been made a thing of the past, while the odds of of losing your home and/or your life savings in the next 5-10 years in the next recession or corporate bankruptcy shell game is increasingly likely. University tuition has been raised through the roof, wages are stagnant, housing is unaffordable, commute time is reaching an hour each way on a good day, sports tickets are unaffordable and on and on. All direct or indirect results of corporate influence on government.

Another factor is the alienating effect of the homogenized “big box” economy. The only treatment society prescribes for the cynicism and drudgery of modern life is retail therapy - we are constantly bombarded with messages to always be shopping and if we’re not constantly buying shit we’re failures as human beings. However increasingly the Walmart /Ikea effect has us all buying the same cheap generic mass-produced junk and living in the same generic mass-produced housing subdivisions.

Basically it’s all spelled out in Fight Club

[rickc]

I thought that we were talking about a bunch of losers who could not get laid in a $2 whorehouse in Tijuana, are we not? These lists bring up some good points about problems facing western man today but I do not think that they address the main problem of the incels. For that we are going to have to get a lot more "un" politically correct. For that I will have to run the risk of being called a homophobe, a genderphobe, a racist, nazi, etc., etc. You see the real problem here is that somewhere along the line someone thought it would be a good idea to blur the lines between the genders. Someone started pushing for a gender neutral society. We stopped raising our boys to be men. They were told that it was ok to stay indoors and play with barbie dolls with their female friends. They did not have to go outside and play. They did not have to join the boyscouts. They did not have to take martial arts or play sports. We have raised a generation of total pussies. A generation of boys who have never learned to ride a bike. Never pitched a tent, never spent a night outdoors. Never caught or cleaned a fish. Never shot a firearm. Never went hunting, or cleaned any game. If they get a flat, they call a road service because they have never changed a tire. They have never turned a wrench or drove a nail.

My fathers generation had nerds, but those nerds would look like Arnold Schwarzenegger in Commando compared to the losers that are todays young males. Those of us that are older can remember having nerds in our scout troops. Some of them might not have wanted to be there, but they were. Their parents made them do it. They did not let them sit around on their ass getting fat playing video games. My fathers generation had the military draft. Nerds had to go into the military. They had to pass the same basic training/boot camp as everyone else. One nerd from my fathers generation would probably take out four of those losers shown in the photo from earlier in the thread. He probably would not have to. After he laid out the first pussy, the rest would run like the little bitches that they are. They may have been nerds (as they were more interested in academics than sports) but they were MEN! They could provide for and defend a family. We have cities, states, provinces, and countries going gender neutral, outlawing he and she. Its total bullshit! We are trying to pretend that there is no difference between the genders. Nothing could be further from the truth.

The genders could not be more different if they tried. I realize that if you look at a picture of todays college youth it can be hard to tell the difference between girls and boys seeing as how they are both wearing skinny jeans andhuge earrings in both ears. If it wasn't for those spotty pathetic beards, you would have no clue. Thats another thing, todays males cannot even grow a full beard FFS! Who told these pussies that spots of hair here and there on their face was attractive? Either grow a full beard or shave FFS! Try again later when you have some more testosterone, if ever. These girls and boys might hang out at protests posing for pictures pretending that they are all the same. The fact of the matter is that these girls (if they are not gay/bi) want a real man. A man who can protect and provide for her and her children. Its human nature. Women are not attracted to effeminate wimpy men. All these parents basement dwelling, video game playing losers are permanently stuck in the friend zone. Girls may hang out with them but they have no intentions of having anything serious with these losers. Why would they? What can they offer these women? Sharing a twin bed in their parents basement? Eventually these girls are going to grow up and move on from college into the real world. They need a car, a house, food on the table, etc. Some loser making minimum wage living with his parents can provide none of that. They cannot fix anything when it breaks. They cannot protect anyone from harm. They cannot provide food when and if the SHTF and society breaks down. They sure as hell do not know how to bring a woman to orgasm. A flashlight, can of mace, and a vibrator provide much more in the way of independence and security for a woman than these jerkoffs ever will.

I feel bad for these losers. Society has failed them. They are victims of social engineering gone drastically wrong. They were sold a bill of goods. They were never taught how to be a man. Now they are the ones paying for society abandoning our young males to some gobbly goop genderbending bullshit. Too many in society were applauding when these young males were being dressed up in girls clothes and playing with barbie dolls against their will. It was all the rage! Now these same people want to react in horror when their Frankenstein's come home to roost. Lets knock off the bullshit! There is a universe of difference between the genders. Always has been, always will be.

[martin14]

peck420 peck420:

As funny as it is now, mock at your own peril.

Their numbers are growing, and we don't actually need that number to get very high before it will cause a shit ton of problems for the remainder of society.

Instead of mocking the effects, how about finding causes?

Leftism, and all its' assorted BS. PC blah blah gone wild, and they aren't done yet.

This is a good place to start.

[Thanos]

llama66 llama66:

$1:

Instead of mocking the effects, how about finding causes?

Causes? 1 thru 6

7. The Internet - for most of us it's a tool or a form of amusement, for these fucked up little boys though it's like an intravenous solution of pure venom that's hooked up right into their brains.

[llama66]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

llama66 llama66:

$1:

Instead of mocking the effects, how about finding causes?

Causes?
1. The long peace
We've been at peace for ~80 years, this the longest period of peace since probably Pax Romana, 1900 years ago. (I'm excluding Pax Britannica because there were still major wars) We haven't had a major war (cold war doesn't really count) since Korea in the early 1950's. We've become lulled into thinking that war is no longer in our nature. We are a species that needs conflict, needs a direction or common goal to be happy.

2. The hijacking and death of the UN
The UN was supposed to be safeguard against further global conflict, but fatal flaws in its creation has lead to it being noting more than the league of nations 2.0, Allowing nations that act in counter to its mandate to sit on various committees(UNHRC, UNSC, etc) has lead to the UN be little more than a waste of money.

3. The destruction of the Nuclear Family
Shouldn't really have to explain that having a parental unit around is good for a child's development.

4. Misinformation/Power of the Media
We all know the internet is rife with misinformation, take this Coventon HS situation, the MSM and many influenced by the MSM had pronounced judgement before the kids had even gotten home.

5. The death of Bi-Partisanship
We no longer see a willingness to compromise, instead we've adopted an almost fatalist attitude of my way or the highway.. Nations are built on Compromise.

6. Technology leaping ahead of Society
The biggest cause I see is technology has leapt out in front of society. In the space of 35 years, we've gone from a largely analog society where we had T.V.'s, VCR's and touch tone phones, Cell phones and Personal Computers were still quite rare, to today where we have the internet, smart phones and everyone having a computer. Great progress, we just don't know how to act on this technology. Also in the least 35 years, our personal information and identity has become insecure, SWATing attacks have climbed, Doxxing, catfishing, rise of child pornography and other social issues that are directly influenced by this technology explosion. Another thing this new technology has allowed us to do is communicate in new ways. We all can share ideas and talk through the advent of social media and forums. This allows the propagation of ideas, both benign and malignant. As I believe is the case with both the far left and far right.

You said not to mock the 1980's East German Pop-rock band, without finding causes, I just gave you 6. Whether you agree or not, that's up to you.

Not a bad list but I don’t know how you can leave out corporations replacing or at least challenging governments as the new centres of power. That has been one of the most profound developments of the past 40 years and I think it’s brought people to a new level of cynicism and unhappiness. The average citizen can see that corporations are now so wealthy and so large, politicians all over the world right on down to the local community level take their marching orders from them in one way or another or at least have to “play ball” in a game the corporate class controls. This has lead to some of the problems you 3 to 5 you list above and sometimes number 2 also.

Many if not most of our political decision-makers sit on corporate boards, sometimes many different boards, and/or socialize with members of the “corporate elite” so are naturally sympathetic to their views. As organizations, our governments rely on the policy advice of established big name consulting firms such as Deloitte, PWC, E&Y, the big banks, etc. who are not neutral advisors, they represent the corporate interest point of view.

Meanwhile As a the prospects for a lot of average middle class people have declined significantly: pensions and retiree benefits have been made a thing of the past, while the odds of of losing your home and/or your life savings in the next 5-10 years in the next recession or corporate bankruptcy shell game is increasingly likely. University tuition has been raised through the roof, wages are stagnant, housing is unaffordable, commute time is reaching an hour each way on a good day, sports tickets are unaffordable and on and on. All direct or indirect results of corporate influence on government.

Another factor is the alienating effect of the homogenized “big box” economy. The only treatment society prescribes for the cynicism and drudgery of modern life is retail therapy - we are constantly bombarded with messages to always be shopping and if we’re not constantly buying shit we’re failures as human beings. However increasingly the Walmart /Ikea effect has us all buying the same cheap generic mass-produced junk and living in the same generic mass-produced housing subdivisions.

Basically it’s all spelled out in Fight Club

a. I was pretty tired when I wrote that, and b. the Corporatism weaves through many to my points. But yes-- things like Citizen's United and money in politics has grossly eroded our democracy.

Also, with the death of the nuclear family comes the death of the middle class.

As an addition to my point 6, the rise of tech has allowed people to congregate in anonymity and this allows for people to say things and not be responsible for what they say. This allows for a pretty dark counter or sub-culture to propagate. Also technology allows for people of existing sub and counter-cultures to communicate and to create whole communities online. You can find communities for everything from Furries to Fetishes communities online these day, whereas 35 years ago, access to these communities may have been limited to publications or mailing groups. It would have been difficult to meet up and speak to people in your "group". The internet has change how we as a society functions on a fundamental level, but our society has not caught up to this change.

as a point 7 (maybe) the youth today see an increasingly dystopian future and think that their parents and grandparents had it better, maybe they did. They don't have a lot of hope for the future.

8. Would probably be the death of competitiveness, not sure if this Incel/Antifa/Gender Equality issue is a symptom of competitiveness not being pushed anymore or its the other way around. But this ties into point one, Competitiveness = conflict. Conflict is a necessary component of how humans function, think. Want a job, you compete against other applicants, want to do better? you compete with yourself to make those gains. Want a girl/boyfriend? compete... Taking the competition out of life really, really sets the stage for what we are seeing... Men that act like men are not suffering from "toxic masculinity" they are functioning as nature intended. Are some of them douches? of course.

Anyway, my 2 cents.